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Steve Spencer wrote:
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The other thing about 39mpx, in addition to heat issues and slower read speed, is that 39mpx hits defraction at > f4, whereas 32mpx hits defraction at >f5.6.

The majority of potential buyers will not be shooting wildlife at f4 and the 32mpx to 39mpx, is wasted. Eg maybe only 10% of potential market have a $10,000 600/500 f4. Wheras 50% have 100-500 or 200-800. And many have the rf 100-400 f9 or its equivalent.

The only reasons for 39mpx is 8k30 video and canon bragging rights. Most people buying r7II are not needing 8k/30 or they would buy the discontinued r5. 8k/30 video takes you into bukier/more expensive heat caused features, the specialized expensive software and computers and technique.

Which takes me into the other feature that I really hate. The AA filter reduces iq by about 10%. They only reason Canon keeps its is again moire in video. A non aa 32mpx would be way better.

A wildlife flagship is apsc 32mpx (effective reach), 30fps (pretty fast) , no aa (maximum iq), <10ms read speed, with a bit buffer and good precapture - which is only 1 stop behind the r5ii in dynamic range. With a 60fps/4k video at most.


I agree that is a wildife flagship camera, but you are talking specs that are as good or better than the Fuji X-H2S and that is a $2,900 camera. If Canon wants an APS-C flagship wildlife camera, then that would be it but it wouldn't be priced anything like the 7R. I think Canon sees the 5R II as its flagship wildlife camera and the 5R II is very capable for wildlife--perhaps not as capable as the camera you are proposing (in some ways not as strong in some ways stronger)--but also more versatile.


I agree with what you say but I am saying the original r7 is already better than the competitors for reach, price, and function for $1500. eg it is the apsc industry current flagship.

So what should they do for R7ii. Faster read speed is the biggest opportunity. They likely can get it down to 10ms from 30ms in electronic and update it to cfexpress, and it will even better than the best (the original $1500 R7).

But no one should be waiting for the r7ii at >$2000 that they might screw up by pursuing 8k/60fps, if they just want inexpensive and highest quality a/f/fps/reach - its already available in the R7 at a very competitive price $1500.

Likely if Canon meets the rumours 39mpx, 30fps, ~13ms read speed, .... at $2500, people will suddenly realize - wait I will just buy the r7 original $1500 and stick it in EFCS, craw for buffer, I don't need 30fps. Eg r7 will remain the best price/reach/fps wildlife camera for photographers on a budget.

Last week I was in La Paz Mexico, with my travel kit (r7, rf100-400) in EFCS mode, and a whale breached a few times. Even with r7, and $1000 lens, I got some reasonable EFCS 15fps shots, which could have been better at 1/2000 if I was ready.



Apr 06, 2026 at 12:06 PM
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R7II Rumours


Steve Spencer wrote:
Scott Stoness wrote:
The other thing about 39mpx, in addition to heat issues and slower read speed, is that 39mpx hits defraction at > f4, whereas 32mpx hits defraction at >f5.6.

The majority of potential buyers will not be shooting wildlife at f4 and the 32mpx to 39mpx, is wasted. Eg maybe only 10% of potential market have a $10,000 600/500 f4. Wheras 50% have 100-500 or 200-800. And many have the rf 100-400 f9 or its equivalent.

The only reasons for 39mpx is 8k30 video and canon bragging rights. Most people buying r7II are not needing 8k/30 or they would buy the discontinued r5. 8k/30 video takes you into bukier/more expensive heat caused features, the specialized expensive software and computers and technique.

Which takes me into the other feature that I really hate. The AA filter reduces iq by about 10%. They only reason Canon keeps its is again moire in video. A non aa 32mpx would be way better.

A wildlife flagship is apsc 32mpx (effective reach), 30fps (pretty fast) , no aa (maximum iq), <10ms read speed, with a bit buffer and good precapture - which is only 1 stop behind the r5ii in dynamic range. With a 60fps/4k video at most.


I agree that is a wildife flagship camera, but you are talking specs that are as good or better than the Fuji X-H2S and that is a $2,900 camera. If Canon wants an APS-C flagship wildlife camera, then that would be it but it wouldn't be priced anything like the 7R. I think Canon sees the 5R II as its flagship wildlife camera and the 5R II is very capable for wildlife--perhaps not as capable as the camera you are proposing (in some ways not as strong in some ways stronger)--but also more versatile.


I agree with what you say but I am saying the original r7 is already better than the competitors for reach, price, and function for $1500. eg it is the apsc industry current flagship.

So what should they do for R7ii. Faster read speed is the biggest opportunity. They likely can get it down to 10ms from 30ms in electronic and update it to cfexpress, and it will even better than the best (the original $1500 R7).

But no one should be waiting for the r7ii at >$2000 that they might screw up by pursuing 8k/60fps, if they just want inexpensive and highest quality a/f/fps/reach - its already available in the R7 at a very competitive price $1500.

Likely if Canon meets the rumours 39mpx, 30fps, ~13ms read speed, .... at $2500, people will suddenly realize - wait I will just buy the r7 original $1500 and stick it in EFCS, craw for buffer, I don't need 30fps. Eg r7 will remain the best price/reach/fps wildlife camera for photographers on a budget.

Last week I was in La Paz Mexico, with my travel kit (r7, rf100-400) in EFCS mode, and a whale breached a few times. Even with r7, and $1000 lens, I got some reasonable shots.



Apr 06, 2026 at 11:34 AM





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