newyork wrote:
You’re absolutely right. I hate the look of my smile especially a fake one and then there’s that “on air” tension that happens. The other part that’s tough is angles. If I were behind the camera and not just looking at my phone or a laptop (once I tether) at the flipped image.
So hard to see mistakes In real time.
Never feel bad about giving criticism and critique. I know it’s from a good place and I need all of it. I do listen and implement it.
Although I may have a nose shadow on my next one and also cut off my fingers in another. I was so pissed when I saw I did it again. lol.
Thank you everyone.
Rich
RustyBug wrote: sum1sgrampa wrote:
Self portraits are not easy
+1
Facial tension is something that is part of getting regular portraits for folks to get to a "relaxed" facial tension state. With self-portraits ... I've noticed that almost all of yours have this "forced" tension in them. Kinda like "over-acting" (but, really it's not ... more of a sub-conscious tensions of sorts). I never mentioned it before, not wanting to sound harsh or dissuading (about a nuance). But, in the vein of wanting to help with some clarification ... I'm tossing it in now, along with Gary's point.
Getting folks to a place where their facial tension is reduced / relaxed is one of the main reasons I was never good at portraiture with folks. So, I say this from a place of "I sucked" ... because it's not always easy. There was a subset of folks I could work with well, but others ... I just couldn't get them there.
So, Gary's point about it being "not easy" ... yeah, relaxing facial tension while doing a selfie, isn't easy either. I get that some of them are supposed to have attitude in them, so I recognize that. It's the point that the vast majority (the series) seem to retain that facial tension.
Just something for ya going forward ... as I dig watching your progression on these.
Keep at it ... if it was "easy" anyone could / would do it. The fact that you're gutting it out and keep tackling a toughie ... is worthy.
Just for kicks ... this is my last attempt at a selfie, so yeah I'm feelin' the difficulty factor is easier said than done ... yup, not easy.
newyork wrote:
You’re absolutely right. I hate the look of my smile especially a fake one and then there’s that “on air” tension that happens. The other part that’s tough is angles. If I were behind the camera and not just looking at my phone or a laptop (once I tether) at the flipped image.
So hard to see mistakes In real time.
Never feel bad about giving criticism and critique. I know it’s from a good place and I need all of it. I do listen and implement it.
Although I may have a nose shadow on my next one and also cut off my fingers in another. I was so pissed when I saw I did it again. lol.
Thank you everyone.
Rich
RustyBug wrote: sum1sgrampa wrote:
Self portraits are not easy
+1
Facial tension is something that is part of getting regular portraits for folks to get to a "relaxed" facial tension state. With self-portraits ... I've noticed that almost all of yours have this "forced" tension in them. Kinda like "over-acting" (but, really it's not ... more of a sub-conscious tensions of sorts). I never mentioned it before, not wanting to sound harsh or dissuading (about a nuance). But, in the vein of wanting to help with some clarification ... I'm tossing it in now, along with Gary's point.
Getting folks to a place where their facial tension is reduced / relaxed is one of the main reasons I was never good at portraiture with folks. So, I say this from a place of "I sucked" ... because it's not always easy. There was a subset of folks I could work with well, but others ... I just couldn't get them there.
So, Gary's point about it being "not easy" ... yeah, relaxing facial tension while doing a selfie, isn't easy either. I get that some of them are supposed to have attitude in them, so I recognize that. It's the point that the vast majority (the series) seem to retain that facial tension.
Just something for ya going forward ... as I dig watching your progression on these.
Keep at it ... if it was "easy" anyone could / would do it. The fact that you're gutting it out and keep tackling a toughie ... is worthy.
Just for kicks ... this is my last attempt at a selfie, so yeah I'm feelin' the difficulty factor is easier said than done ... yup, not easy.
newyork wrote:
You’re absolutely right. I hate the look of my smile especially a fake one and then there’s that “on air” tension that happens. The other part that’s tough is angles. If I were behind the camera and not just looking at my phone or a laptop (once I tether) at the flipped image.
So hard to see mistakes In real time.
Never feel bad about giving criticism and critique. I know it’s from a good place and I need all of it. I do listen and implement it.
Although I may have a nose shadow on my next one and also cut off my fingers in another. I was so pissed when I saw I did it again. lol.
Thank you everyone.
Rich
RustyBug wrote: sum1sgrampa wrote:
Self portraits are not easy
+1
Facial tension is something that is part of getting regular portraits for folks to get to a "relaxed" facial tension state. With self-portraits ... I've noticed that almost all of yours have this "forced" tension in them. Kinda like "over-acting" (but, really it's not ... more of a sub-conscious tensions of sorts). I never mentioned it before, not wanting to sound harsh or dissuading (about a nuance). But, in the vein of wanting to help with some clarification ... I'm tossing it in now, along with Gary's point.
Getting folks to a place where their facial tension is reduced / relaxed is one of the main reasons I was never good at portraiture with folks. So, I say this from a place of "I sucked" ... because it's not always easy. There was a subset of folks I could work with well, but others ... I just couldn't get them there.
So, Gary's point about it being "not easy" ... yeah, relaxing facial tension while doing a selfie, isn't easy either. I get that some of them are supposed to have attitude in them, so I recognize that. It's the point that the vast majority (the series) seem to retain that facial tension.
Just something for ya going forward ... as I dig watching your progression on these.
Keep at it ... if it was "easy" anyone could / would do it. The fact that you're gutting it out and keep tackling a toughie ... is worthy.
Just for kicks ... this is my last attempt at a selfie, so yeah I'm feelin' the difficulty factor is easier said than done ... yup, not easy.
newyork wrote:
You’re absolutely right. I hate the look of my smile especially a fake one and then there’s that “on air” tension that happens. The other part that’s tough is angles. If I were behind the camera and not just looking at my phone or a laptop (once I tether) at the flipped image.
So hard to see mistakes In real time.
Never feel bad about giving criticism and critique. I know it’s from a good place and I need all of it. I do listen and implement it.
Although I may have a nose shadow on my next one and also cut off my fingers in another. I was so pissed when I saw I did it again. lol.
Thank you everyone.
Rich
RustyBug wrote: sum1sgrampa wrote:
Self portraits are not easy
+1
Facial tension is something that is part of getting regular portraits for folks to get to a "relaxed" facial tension state. With self-portraits ... I've noticed that almost all of yours have this "forced" tension in them. Kinda like "over-acting" (but, really it's not ... more of a sub-conscious tensions of sorts). I never mentioned it before, not wanting to sound harsh or dissuading (about a nuance). But, in the vein of wanting to help with some clarification ... I'm tossing it in now, along with Gary's point.
Getting folks to a place where their facial tension is reduced / relaxed is one of the main reasons I was never good at portraiture with folks. So, I say this from a place of "I sucked" ... because it's not always easy. There was a subset of folks I could work with well, but others ... I just couldn't get them there.
So, Gary's point about it being "not easy" ... yeah, relaxing facial tension while doing a selfie, isn't easy either. I get that some of them are supposed to have attitude in them, so I recognize that. It's the point that the vast majority (the series) seem to retain that facial tension.
Just something for ya going forward ... as I dig watching your progression on these.
Keep at it ... if it was "easy" anyone could / would do it. The fact that you're gutting it out and keep tackling a toughie ... is worthy.
Just for kicks ... this is my last attempt at a selfie, so yeah I'm feelin' the difficulty factor is easier said than done ... yup, not easy.
I'm rootin' fer ya.
newyork wrote:
You’re absolutely right. I hate the look of my smile especially a fake one and then there’s that “on air” tension that happens. The other part that’s tough is angles. If I were behind the camera and not just looking at my phone or a laptop (once I tether) at the flipped image.
So hard to see mistakes In real time.
Never feel bad about giving criticism and critique. I know it’s from a good place and I need all of it. I do listen and implement it.
Although I may have a nose shadow on my next one and also cut off my fingers in another. I was so pissed when I saw I did it again. lol.
Thank you everyone.
Rich
RustyBug wrote: sum1sgrampa wrote:
Self portraits are not easy
+1
Facial tension is something that is part of getting regular portraits for folks to get to a "relaxed" facial tension state. With self-portraits ... I've noticed that almost all of yours have this "forced" tension in them. Kinda like "over-acting" (but, really it's not ... more of a sub-conscious tensions of sorts). I never mentioned it before, not wanting to sound harsh or dissuading (about a nuance). But, in the vein of wanting to help with some clarification ... I'm tossing it in now, along with Gary's point.
Getting folks to a place where their facial tension is reduced / relaxed is one of the main reasons I was never good at portraiture with folks. So, I say this from a place of "I sucked" ... because it's not always easy. There was a subset of folks I could work with well, but others ... I just couldn't get them there.
So, Gary's point about it being "not easy" ... yeah, relaxing facial tension while doing a selfie, isn't easy either. I get that some of them are supposed to have attitude in them, so I recognize that. It's the point that the vast majority (the series) seem to retain that facial tension.
Just something for ya going forward ... as I dig watching your progression on these.
Keep at it ... if it was "easy" anyone could / would do it. The fact that you're gutting it out and keep tackling a toughie ... is worthy.
Just for kicks ... this is my last attempt at a selfie, so yeah I'm feelin' the difficulty factor is easier said than done ... and am rootin' fer ya.
newyork wrote:
You’re absolutely right. I hate the look of my smile especially a fake one and then there’s that “on air” tension that happens. The other part that’s tough is angles. If I were behind the camera and not just looking at my phone or a laptop (once I tether) at the flipped image.
So hard to see mistakes In real time.
Never feel bad about giving criticism and critique. I know it’s from a good place and I need all of it. I do listen and implement it.
Although I may have a nose shadow on my next one and also cut off my fingers in another. I was so pissed when I saw I did it again. lol.
Thank you everyone.
Rich
RustyBug wrote: sum1sgrampa wrote:
Self portraits are not easy
+1
Facial tension is something that is part of getting regular portraits for folks to get to a "relaxed" facial tension state. With self-portraits ... I've noticed that almost all of yours have this "forced" tension in them. Kinda like "over-acting" (but, really it's not ... more of a sub-conscious tensions of sorts). I never mentioned it before, not wanting to sound harsh or dissuading (about a nuance). But, in the vein of wanting to help with some clarification ... I'm tossing it in now, along with Gary's point.
Getting folks to a place where their facial tension is reduced / relaxed is one of the main reasons I was never good at portraiture with folks. So, I say this from a place of "I sucked" ... because it's not always easy. There was a subset of folks I could work with well, but others ... I just couldn't get them there.
So, Gary's point about it being "not easy" ... yeah, relaxing facial tension while doing a selfie, isn't easy either. I get that some of them are supposed to have attitude in them, so I recognize that. It's the point that the vast majority (the series) seem to retain that facial tension.
Just something for ya going forward ... as I dig watching your progression on these.
Keep at it ... if it was "easy" anyone could / would do it. The fact that you're gutting it out and keep tackling a toughie ... is worthy.
