chiron wrote: aCuria wrote: chiron wrote:
Does anyone have any educated estimates of how well the semi-stacked sensor in the A7V will deal with the banding problem caused by the flickering of modern LED lighting (which is becoming ubiquitous)?
As you can see in the image sample, even the A1 has trouble in some situations so I would not expect much too much from the A7V. Global shutter is the only answer afaik
Yes, but no. Jim Kasson has previously demonstrated that some LED lights can produce banding even with a stacked sensor. This is especially true of some stadium and theatrical lighting and the occasional home, public or retail lighting
However, in thousands of images shot under a variety of home and public LED lighting, I have virtually never gotten a banded image with either an A9, A1, or A1 II. They are all fast enough to not have a problem with common modern lighting.
On the other hand, with an A7iii, A7RIII, A7Cii, and A7CR, banding under common LED lights is universal and extreme.
So it is a matter of degree rather than an absolute, but the degree of difference between stacked and unstacked is very great.
My question is where will the A7V fall?
chiron wrote:
However, in thousands of images shot under a variety of home and public LED lighting, I have virtually never gotten a banded image with either an A9, A1, or A1 II. They are all fast enough to not have a problem with common modern lighting.
Basically you lucked out. I’ve definitely run into my fair share of everyday light bulbs that cause banding when using the A1’s electronic shutter.
The image sample wasn’t anything exotic either, just a single standard domestic fixture with cheap E27 bulbs shot with the A1 at high shutter speed.
The mechanical shutter on the A1 is remarkably fast, and does mitigate banding to some extent.
chiron wrote: aCuria wrote: chiron wrote:
Does anyone have any educated estimates of how well the semi-stacked sensor in the A7V will deal with the banding problem caused by the flickering of modern LED lighting (which is becoming ubiquitous)?
As you can see in the image sample, even the A1 has trouble in some situations so I would not expect much too much from the A7V. Global shutter is the only answer afaik
Yes, but no. Jim Kasson has previously demonstrated that some LED lights can produce banding even with a stacked sensor. This is especially true of some stadium and theatrical lighting and the occasional home, public or retail lighting
However, in thousands of images shot under a variety of home and public LED lighting, I have virtually never gotten a banded image with either an A9, A1, or A1 II. They are all fast enough to not have a problem with common modern lighting.
On the other hand, with an A7iii, A7RIII, A7Cii, and A7CR, banding under common LED lights is universal and extreme.
So it is a matter of degree rather than an absolute, but the degree of difference between stacked and unstacked is very great.
My question is where will the A7V fall?
As you can see from my A1 sample, I’ve definitely run into everyday light bulbs that cause banding when using the A1’s electronic shutter. This wasn’t anything exotic either, just a single standard domestic fixture with cheap E27 bulbs.
Dec 15, 2025 at 12:08 AM
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