Nifty Fifty wrote: Yogifi wrote:
They liked the well out of focus (and low res) pics I got back from my first roll with the nikon fm2n + 50mmf1.4 in kodak gold 200 more than anything else I've taken with the Sony or Fuji. And they were always complaining when I added any grain in post with those.
I think I like your family.
Well, they also picked the horrible bright white raised "flower" bed you see near the fence in the comparison shots, when I was suggesting stone. I think they regretted it when they saw it at least.
Left the garden with them at that point (having had a rather stressful time with the structure and needing a break). Can see the brilliant progress they've made ... the grass has almost covered the ground by itself since.
Jonas B wrote:
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CV50/1.2 at ƒ2 (obviously) to the left and the Viltrox, wide open, to the right. In real world use this has no practical impact. Autofocus may have...
When I did side-by-sides with my decentered apo, it was like 2/3rd a stop bokeh difference, between the two apo-lanthar seemed a bit slower. The nokton also looked like it had better separation but I'm not sure if that's because the apo was decentered, I don't think so as that was only top left corner.
The apo felt really good for realism, slower transition to out-of-focus... and the nokton for subjects.
--- But it wasn't a huge difference. You can get cool shots wide open with both, the nokton can get quite surreal sometimes. And the CA was more apparent like it is in your comparison. The bokeh don't see much difference looking side by side there.
I like the apo more for walkabouts and the nokton more for people but you know half of that might be psychological. It is nice to go larger than f2 though.
I usually the use the nokton at f1.6 with single people subjects. Can go larger aperture when theyre a bit further away otherwise up close and wide it's not that nice with the glow for me. My favourite lens so far for the people shots though not by a huge margin, lots of nice ones available. I think part of that was they had this filmic vibe to them, maybe it's the colours I'm not sure. I saw very little difference between the APO-lanthar and Nokton 50 f1.2 in terms of colours, it was like sometimes leaning towards pastel. I suspect the viltrox is a little more modern.
While the differences are slight, if I try to make one more like the other I usually fail and go overboard, but that slight difference in colour, saturation... does impact the vibe .. sometimes.
Nifty Fifty wrote: Yogifi wrote:
They liked the well out of focus (and low res) pics I got back from my first roll with the nikon fm2n + 50mmf1.4 in kodak gold 200 more than anything else I've taken with the Sony or Fuji. And they were always complaining when I added any grain in post with those.
I think I like your family.
Well, they also picked the horrible bright white raised "flower" bed you see near the fence in the comparison shots, when I was suggesting stone. I think they regretted it when they saw it at least.
Left the garden with them at that point (having had a rather stressful time with the structure and needing a break). Can see the brilliant progress they've made ... the grass has almost covered the ground by itself since.
Jonas B wrote:
...
CV50/1.2 at ƒ2 (obviously) to the left and the Viltrox, wide open, to the right. In real world use this has no practical impact. Autofocus may have...
When I did side-by-sides with my decentered apo, it was like 2/3rd a stop bokeh difference, between the two apo-lanthar seemed a bit slower. The nokton also looked like it had better separation but I'm not sure if that's because the apo was decentered, I don't think so as that was only top left corner.
The apo felt really good for realism, slower transition to out-of-focus... and the nokton for subjects.
--- But it wasn't a huge difference. You can get cool shots wide open with both, the nokton can get quite surreal sometimes. And the CA was more apparent like it is in your comparison. The bokeh don't see much difference looking side by side there.
I like the apo more for walkabouts and the nokton more for people but you know half of that might be psychological. It is nice to go larger than f2 though.
I usually the use the nokton at f1.6 with single people subjects. Can go larger aperture when theyre a bit further away otherwise up close and wide it's not that nice with the glow for me. My favourite lens so far for the people shots though not by a huge margin, lots of nice ones available. I think part of that was they had this filmic vibe to them, maybe it's the colours I'm not sure. I saw very little difference between the APO-lanthar and Nokton 50 f1.2 in terms of colours, it was like sometimes leaning towards pastel. I suspect the viltrox is a little more modern.
While differences slight, if I try to make one more like the other I usually fail and go overboard, but that slight difference in colour, saturation... does impact the vibe .. sometimes.
Nifty Fifty wrote: Yogifi wrote:
They liked the well out of focus (and low res) pics I got back from my first roll with the nikon fm2n + 50mmf1.4 in kodak gold 200 more than anything else I've taken with the Sony or Fuji. And they were always complaining when I added any grain in post with those.
I think I like your family.
Well, they also picked the horrible bright white raised "flower" bed you see near the fence in the comparison shots, when I was suggesting stone. I think they regretted it when they saw it at least.
Left the garden with them at that point (having had a rather stressful time with the structure and needing a break). Can see the brilliant progress they've made ... the grass has almost covered the ground by itself since.
Jonas B wrote:
...
CV50/1.2 at ƒ2 (obviously) to the left and the Viltrox, wide open, to the right. In real world use this has no practical impact. Autofocus may have...
When I did side-by-sides with my decentered apo, it was like 2/3rd a stop bokeh difference, between the two apo-lanthar seemed a bit slower. The nokton also looked like it had better separation but I'm not sure if that's because the apo was decentered, I don't think so as that was only top left corner.
The apo felt really good for realism, slower transition to out-of-focus... and the nokton for subjects.
--- But it wasn't a huge difference. You can get cool shots wide open with both, the nokton can get quite surreal sometimes. And the CA was more apparent like it is in your comparison. The bokeh don't see much difference looking side by side there.
I like the apo more for walkabouts and the nokton more for people but you know half of that might be psychological. It is nice to go larger than f2 though.
I usually the use the nokton at f1.6 with single people subjects. Can go larger aperture when theyre a bit further away otherwise up close and wide it's not that nice with the glow for me. My favourite lens so far for the people shots though not by a huge margin, lots of nice ones available. I think part of that was they had this filmic vibe to them, maybe it's the colours I'm not sure. I saw very little difference between the APO-lanthar and Nokton 50 f1.2 in terms of colours, it was like sometimes leaning towards pastel. I suspect the viltrox is a little more modern.
While differences slight, if I try to make one more like the other I usually fail and go overboard, but that slight difference in colour, saturation... does impact the vibe sometimes.
Nifty Fifty wrote: Yogifi wrote:
They liked the well out of focus (and low res) pics I got back from my first roll with the nikon fm2n + 50mmf1.4 in kodak gold 200 more than anything else I've taken with the Sony or Fuji. And they were always complaining when I added any grain in post with those.
I think I like your family.
Well, they also picked the horrible bright white raised "flower" bed you see near the fence in the comparison shots, when I was suggesting stone. I think they regretted it when they saw it at least.
Left the garden with them at that point (having had a rather stressful time with the structure and needing a break). Can see the brilliant progress they've made ... the grass has almost covered the ground by itself since.
Jonas B wrote:
...
CV50/1.2 at ƒ2 (obviously) to the left and the Viltrox, wide open, to the right. In real world use this has no practical impact. Autofocus may have...
When I did side-by-sides with my decentered apo, it was like 2/3rd a stop bokeh difference, between the two apo-lanthar seemed a bit slower. The nokton also looked like it had better separation but I'm not sure if that's because the apo was decentered, I don't think so as that was only top left corner.
The apo felt really good for realism, slower transition to out-of-focus... and the nokton for subjects.
--- But it wasn't a huge difference. You can get cool shots wide open with both, the nokton can get quite surreal sometimes. And the CA was more apparent like it is in your comparison. The bokeh don't see much difference looking side by side there.
I like the apo more for walkabouts and the nokton more for people but you know half of that might be psychological. It is nice to go larger than f2 though.
I usually the use the nokton at f1.6 with single people subjects. Can go larger aperture when theyre a bit further away otherwise up close and wide it's not that nice with the glow for me. My favourite lens so far for the people shots though not by a huge margin, lots of nice ones available. I think part of that was they had this filmic vibe to them, maybe it's the colours I'm not sure. I saw very little difference between the APO-lanthar and Nokton 50 f1.2 in terms of colours, it was like sometimes leaning towards pastel. I suspect the viltrox is a little more modern.
While differences slight, if I try to make one more like the other I usually fail and go overboard, but that slight difference in colour does impact the vibe.
Nifty Fifty wrote: Yogifi wrote:
They liked the well out of focus (and low res) pics I got back from my first roll with the nikon fm2n + 50mmf1.4 in kodak gold 200 more than anything else I've taken with the Sony or Fuji. And they were always complaining when I added any grain in post with those.
I think I like your family.
Well, they also picked the horrible bright white raised "flower" bed you see near the fence in the comparison shots, when I was suggesting stone. I think they regretted it when they saw it at least.
Left the garden with them at that point (having had a rather stressful time with the structure and needing a break). Can see the brilliant progress they've made ... the grass has almost covered the ground by itself since.
Jonas B wrote:
...
CV50/1.2 at ƒ2 (obviously) to the left and the Viltrox, wide open, to the right. In real world use this has no practical impact. Autofocus may have...
When I did side-by-sides with my decentered apo, it was like 2/3rd a stop bokeh difference, between the two apo-lanthar seemed a bit slower. The nokton also looked like it had better separation but I'm not sure if that's because the apo was decentered, I don't think so as that was only top left corner.
The apo felt really good for realism, slower transition to out-of-focus... and the nokton for subjects.
--- But it wasn't a huge difference. You can get cool shots wide open with both, the nokton can get quite surreal sometimes. And the CA was more apparent like it is in your comparison. The bokeh don't see much difference looking side by side there.
I like the apo more for walkabouts and the nokton more for people but you know half of that might be psychological. It is nice to go larger than f2 though.
I usually the use the nokton at f1.6 with single people subjects. Can go larger aperture when theyre a bit further away otherwise up close and wide it's not that nice with the glow for me. My favourite lens so far for the people shots though not by a huge margin, lots of nice ones available. I think part of that was they had this filmic vibe to them, maybe it's the colours I'm not sure. Also the flexibility.
Nifty Fifty wrote: Yogifi wrote:
They liked the well out of focus (and low res) pics I got back from my first roll with the nikon fm2n + 50mmf1.4 in kodak gold 200 more than anything else I've taken with the Sony or Fuji. And they were always complaining when I added any grain in post with those.
I think I like your family.
Well, they also picked the horrible bright white raised "flower" bed you see near the fence in the comparison shots, when I was suggesting stone. I think they regretted it when they saw it at least.
Left the garden with them at that point (having had a rather stressful time with the structure and needing a break). Can see the brilliant progress they've made ... the grass has almost covered the ground by itself since.
Jonas B wrote:
...
CV50/1.2 at ƒ2 (obviously) to the left and the Viltrox, wide open, to the right. In real world use this has no practical impact. Autofocus may have...
When I did side-by-sides with my decentered apo, it was like 2/3rd a stop bokeh difference, between the two apo-lanthar seemed a bit slower. The nokton also looked like it had better separation but I'm not sure if that's because the apo was decentered, I don't think so as that was only top left corner.
The apo felt really good for realism, slower transition to out-of-focus... and the nokton for subjects.
--- But it wasn't a huge difference. You can get cool shots wide open with both, the nokton can get quite surreal sometimes. And the CA was more apparent like it is in your comparison. The bokeh don't see much difference looking side by side there.
I like the apo more for walkabouts and the nokton more for people but you know half of that might be psychological. It is nice to go larger than f2 though.
I usually the use the nokton at f1.6 with single people subjects. Can go larger aperture when theyre a bit further away otherwise up close and wide it's not that nice with the glow for me. My favourite lens so far for the people shots though. And I think part of that was they had this filmic vibe to them, maybe it's the colours I'm not sure.
Nifty Fifty wrote: Yogifi wrote:
They liked the well out of focus (and low res) pics I got back from my first roll with the nikon fm2n + 50mmf1.4 in kodak gold 200 more than anything else I've taken with the Sony or Fuji. And they were always complaining when I added any grain in post with those.
I think I like your family.
Well, they also picked the horrible bright white raised "flower" bed you see near the fence in the comparison shots, when I was suggesting stone. I think they regretted it when they saw it at least.
Left the garden with them at that point (having had a rather stressful time with the structure and needing a break/focus a bit on work). Can see the brilliant progress they've made ... the grass has almost covered the ground by itself since.
Jonas B wrote:
...
CV50/1.2 at ƒ2 (obviously) to the left and the Viltrox, wide open, to the right. In real world use this has no practical impact. Autofocus may have...
When I did side-by-sides with my decentered apo, it was like 2/3rd a stop bokeh difference, between the two apo-lanthar seemed a bit slower. The nokton also looked like it had better separation but I'm not sure if that's because it was decentered. The apo felt really good for realism, slower transition to out-of-focus... and the nokton for subjects. But it wasn't a huge difference. You can get cool shots wide open with both, the nokton can get quite surreal sometimes. And the CA was more apparent like it is in your comparison. The bokeh don't see much difference looking side by side there.
I like the apo more for walkabouts and the nokton more for people but you know half of that might be psychological. It is nice to go larger than f2 though.
I usually the use the nokton at f1.6 with single people subjects. Can go larger aperture when theyre a bit further away otherwise up close and wide it's not that nice with the glow for me. My favourite lens so far for the people shots though. And I think part of that was they had this filmic vibe to them, maybe it's the colours I'm not sure.
Nifty Fifty wrote: Yogifi wrote:
They liked the well out of focus (and low res) pics I got back from my first roll with the nikon fm2n + 50mmf1.4 in kodak gold 200 more than anything else I've taken with the Sony or Fuji. And they were always complaining when I added any grain in post with those.
I think I like your family.
Well, they also picked the horrible bright white raised "flower" bed you see near the fence in the comparison shots, when I was suggesting stone. I think they regretted it when they saw it at least.
Left the garden with them at that point (having had a rather stressful time with the structure and needing a break). Can see the brilliant progress they've made ... the grass has almost covered the ground by itself since.
Jonas B wrote:
...
CV50/1.2 at ƒ2 (obviously) to the left and the Viltrox, wide open, to the right. In real world use this has no practical impact. Autofocus may have...
When I did side-by-sides with my decentered apo, it was like 2/3rd a stop bokeh difference, between the two apo-lanthar seemed a bit slower. The nokton also looked like it had better separation but I'm not sure if that's because it was decentered. The apo felt really good for realism, slower transition to out-of-focus... and the nokton for subjects. But it wasn't a huge difference. You can get cool shots wide open with both, the nokton can get quite surreal sometimes. And the CA was more apparent like it is in your comparison. The bokeh don't see much difference looking side by side there.
I like the apo more for walkabouts and the nokton more for people but you know half of that might be psychological. It is nice to go larger than f2 though.
I usually the use the nokton at f1.6 with single people subjects. Can go larger aperture when theyre a bit further away otherwise up close and wide it's not that nice with the glow for me. My favourite lens so far for the people shots though. And I think part of that was they had this filmic vibe to them, maybe it's the colours I'm not sure.
