Re: Leica M11-V to be announced (Now called Leica M EV1)
panos.v wrote: brafman wrote:
One reason is that magnification in the EVF is generally needed for nailing focus with a small depth of field, and IBIS really helps when using magnification (otherwise the magnified image in the viewfinder can be quite jumpy).
Ok yes I get that. Does the current visoflex have software stabilisation? (not sure, asking, I've only used the crappy old VF2).
Anyway...just as a fun argument here we are:
M was made for portable and fast focusing photography with modest aperture lenses (because that's all the could do at the time) -> high ISO was not availlable back in the day hence shutter speeds could be too low -> shutter speed issue solved with fast lenses -> fast lenses wide open need accurate focusing -> rangefinder is difficult to focus wide open accurately -> EV1 solves that problem 70 years later with an EVF -> EV1 needs IBIS to make the EVF suitable for critical focusing
It is just like those engineering projects where you keep adding to the solution, trying to solve the last problem caused by the previous addition that was solving a problem that was created by the previous addition...all the way back where effectively you're trying to solve a problem that was always outside the original specification.
The next iteration is:
... EV1 solves the focus issues with an EVF -> EV1 needs IBIS to make the EVF suitable for critical focusing -> IBIS needs to fit within a sensor stack and body that adheres to the original M body dimensions -> etc...
And the Campagnolo eventually morphs into a Vespa.
Re: Leica M11-V to be announced (Now called Leica M EV1)
panos.v wrote: brafman wrote:
One reason is that magnification in the EVF is generally needed for nailing focus with a small depth of field, and IBIS really helps when using magnification (otherwise the magnified image in the viewfinder can be quite jumpy).
Ok yes I get that. Does the current visoflex have software stabilisation? (not sure, asking, I've only used the crappy old VF2).
Anyway...just as a fun argument here we are:
M was made for portable and fast focusing photography with modest aperture lenses (because that's all the could do at the time) -> high ISO was not availlable back in the day hence shutter speeds could be too low -> shutter speed issue solved with fast lenses -> fast lenses wide open need accurate focusing -> rangefinder is difficult to focus wide open accurately -> EV1 solves that problem 70 years later with an EVF -> EV1 needs IBIS to make the EVF suitable for critical focusing
It is just like those engineering projects where you keep adding to the solution, trying to solve the last problem caused by the previous addition that was solving a problem that was created by the previous addition...all the way back where effectively you're trying to solve a problem that was always outside the original specification.
The next iteration is:
... EV1 solves the focus issues with an EVF -> EV1 needs IBIS to make the EVF suitable for critical focusing -> IBIS needs to fit within a sensor stack and body that adheres to the original M body dimensions -> etc...
And the Campagnolo eventually morphs into a Ducati.
Nov 02, 2025 at 09:44 AM
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