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 Re: Leica M11-V to be announced (Now called Leica M EV1) | |
SlowDriver wrote:
stgrove wrote:
tzhang4284 wrote:
philip_pj wrote:
'TTartsan or 7art M camera? What are we talking about?'
Perpetual innovator DJI is best positioned. They focus on modularization and miniaturisation and 'own' the consumer drone market (90%). Action cams, gimbals and the masterful Ronin 4D. An M-mount EVF camera would be a walk in the park for their engineers. That would get a lot of talking about, even just an announcement of intent would set the hares running.
Have you seen the prices for DJI products these days? They are not cheap - total fantasy to assume DJI would waste their time with a cheap low end M-mount camera when they can charge far more for Hasselblad or under their own brand.
IF you own an M11 and shoot with Leica M lenses, then Hasselblad X2Dii prices, are are $2400 less than an M11, The SL3 is about $100 more than the X2Dii which has many, many better features which has been discussed many times here with 10 stop IBIS at the top of the list along with the BSI 100MP sensor. SL APO prime lenses sell new for around $2000 more than Hasselblad prime V lenses which offer a clutch to switch immediately to manual focus if desired.
I haven't tried M-lenses on the Hasselblad yet. I probably should give it a go as well.
Which adapter do you use? How do the corners look like? Do you crop them out?
Be ready for e-shutter only. 1/3 sec readout for 16 bit, 1/6 sec readout for 14 bit. The M 14 bit e-shutter readout is 1/9 sec (iirc). But, you have the focal plane shutter, so the limitation of 1/9 sec readout isn't a mandatory limitation, the way it is with M glass on Hassy.
Also, if you're shooting the M lens image circle on the Hassy, you're only getting the same real estate as the M (maybe a smidge more), but paying for the entire readout. Imo, if you're gonna use the e-shutter on the Hassy with the M glass, you really aren't gaining much ... actually losing the focal plane shutter and the longer readout speeds. If the point of using the Hassy is to get the 16 bit files, then you're stuck with 1/3 sec readout of the e-shutter.
There's a certain romance about using the M lenses on the Hassy, but in practical terms, there are limitations that need to be understood. My first go round with using M lenses on my X1D II wasn't quite what I'd anticipated (for my use case). If the IBIS in the Hassy is the compulsion for using M glass on the Hassy, the SL3 retains the focal plane shutter and has IBIS, if one doesn't want to use an M.
I haven't dusted off (retained from my X1D II era) my M>Hassy adapter yet, since getting my X2D ... I do want to test out the M 135/3.4 APO on it. But, again, e-shutter only. Maybe, later this week I'll give it a go. But, for anything with movement, that e-shutter can be an issue. For that, I'll just mount it on either the M or SL body.
As to the price difference (previous reference), I still think I have been seeing the SL APO lenses on the B&S boards for around $3K and the Hassy V series on the B&S boards for around $3K for the 30 / 50 vs. 38 / 55. Retail new might be a bigger spread than the used market, but ...
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