Steve Spencer wrote: aCuria wrote: Steve Spencer wrote: aCuria wrote: Ross Martin wrote: RoamingScott wrote:
As usual, the only people that care about DR enough to post about ceaselessly it never produce examples of the cameras in question falling short in tough conditions.
It's really easy to see through the schtick.
I can geek out on photo specs at times including DR numbers, like any good photo forum nerd but the truth is I have not been able to see any problems in actual real-world shooting of cameras from many different brands over the years that have different DR numbers. The example here is from the Z9 and I intentionally and massively underexposed to protect the highlights, then pulled up exposure/shadows in Lightroom by 3 stops, and to me it looks good.
I am not much of a landscape guy, but the color and detail have suffered in that shot compared to what I am used to at ISO 100.
You can't compare Ross' shot with your shots. They are quite different approaches. Among other things he stopped down to f/22 and I don't think you did. That in and of itself can create a difference in detail due to differences in defraction. That said, I really like Ross' and what makes it work to me anyway has nothing to do with the amount of detail in the shot. There is so much more to a good landscape shot than the amount of detail captured. I like Ross' shot for the relation of the forms of landscape and the shapes which isn't at all about detail.
You could be right that maybe its a poor example of what the camera is capable of.
However, using f/22 should not affect the color, primarily lens resolution is whats affected.
Could lens resolution have been degraded by diffraction so much that we don't even have 1MP (1200x800) left?
I think we are seeing some of that color shifting that was being discussed maybe.
I find the colors subtle and a strong part of Ross' shot. I don't see what you don't like about them.
Cant say for sure without looking at the raw file, but detail may not hold up when printed A3 / A2 / A1 and will look odd (to me) when its on the wall with other shots that have much higher detail
I also like more saturated colors haha
I mentioned this before, do have some shots with poor detail on the wall (out of an iPhone).
One of the reasons (for me) to carry a camera around, is so a higher % of shots which capture the right moment will have good detail and color.
Oct 08, 2025 at 10:55 PM
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but the truth is I have not been able to see any problems in actual real-world shooting of cameras from many different brands over the years that have different DR numbers. The example here is from the Z9 and I intentionally and massively underexposed to protect the highlights, then pulled up exposure/shadows in Lightroom by 3 stops, and to me it looks good.
