Re: Leica M11-V to be announced (Now called Leica M EV1)
fjablo wrote: LBJ2 wrote: 1bwana1 wrote:
LBJ2 wrote: fjablo wrote: retrofocus wrote: LBJ2 wrote:
he Leica Q3 was the standout bestseller, while the Leica SL3 and Leica SL3-S full-frame system cameras also proved highly popular..."
Nicely worded but it means: the Leica Q3 sales were excellent and the SL system finding usage but to a much lesser amount.
Yeah probably means „SL3 sales are more or less in line with plan“. Doesn’t mean much in terms of uptake in absolute terms.
Regarding lack of IBIS in the M EV1: wondering how much of a challenge it is to build IBIS for M mount. It is quite a narrow mount and with many lenses the light already hits the sensor at steep angles.. we‘ve seen some vignetting based on lens rear baffle design on the Nikon Zf and that’s with the massive Z mount. I imagine there would be a lot of compatibility issues with M mount lenses, where IBIS works well for some, but hard-vignettes with others.
There was a statement some time ago from Leica something along the lines of... if Leica were able to remove the mechanical shutter in the current M camera form factor there could be room for an IBIS mechanism.
After the hybrid M EV1 camera is released, I think a mechanical shutterless M camera with IBIS could be the next big change/update coming to perhaps to one of the next-gen M12 camera models.
Removing the mechanical shutter would require a complete change of camera architecture from sensor up. The orientation of such an architecture would change from IQ to speed. I think that is an unlikely path for Leica to take. Leica has absolutely no experience/history in high speed cameras like such a change would require.
Here's the statement I was referring to:
"One wish is the image stabilizer. Why doesn't the M11 have this?
I would like to have that as well, but space is the limit here, because one of the specifications, even with the M10, was that the housing depth of the analogue M cameras should be retained. Because that's what makes the camera so handy. But it isn't ruled out that the image stabilizer could be integrated into the M at some point, for example, if we would do without the mechanical shutter and so the necessary space would be available again. "–conversation with Stefan Daniel
He's talking about the depth of the camera which is certainly one issue. But all those recent IBIS units with 6-8 stops of compensation also shift the sensor around significantly to achieve that, so I'm still not convinced that there wouldn't be compatibility issues with the lenses in many cases. Of course they might implement a less effective IBIS unit (like 2-3 stops maybe?) but not sure if those who demand IBIS right now would be happy with that either..
I don't know, but I think current IBIS technology applied in digital cameras is a combination of both the physical IBIS mech and software. Perhaps, in an extreme installation as the M11 form factor might present, perhaps maybe could be used to make up some of the differences of a more robust/capable IBIS mechanism that might require more space.
Oct 05, 2025 at 10:50 AM
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