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Re: Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced!


Lukacs wrote:
The RX1RIII issue:
1. Sony's main selling point is the technical advancement and G/GM lens designs. This camera has none of them. The lens is old design and it wouldn't have to be a problem on different price level. Also indeed Sony implemented the latest AF AI chip, but the lens AF motor is holding it back. None of the lens sharpness/CA and AF speed are up to modern Sony high-end standards, still it's priced into the high-end category.
2. Shutter speed. The 1/2000s can cause problem in harsh sunny day wide open. Either you have to close down the aperture, use ND filter or rely on slow readout electronic shutter. Also leaf shutter cause loss of bokeh as EFCS at higher shutter speeds. Not a deal-breaker issue, but can be quite frustrating.
3. Lack of stabilisation. I'm aware it's impossible to implement keeping the size, but the camera is too small and light for decent handheld, what is way less problem with GFX100RF, where the wider FOV also helping (not at pixel level of course)
4. No tilting screen. Not have had a feature is a less deal than loosing it. It's painful to step backward to fixed screen.
5. Lack of weather sealing. Competition has some kind of sealing.

What I expected in RX1RIII:
1. Upgraded lens design in same size (it'd need more distortion correction), sharp wide open, fast AF motor, built in auto ND filter like in GR3.
2. 2.1M dot tilting screen.
3. I don't mind, even prefer wider body for better handheld shooting and bigger battery

Of course I'd accept certain shortcomings, like lack of IBIS (with improved grip), the small EVF for absolute portability.


I completely agree with all of your points. As a background, I have extensively shot with the RX1R and RX1RII. I would add that I really miss the built-in flash that was on the RX1R - something I miss when traveling. Below, is an example of a shot taken twelve years ago outside of the Vatican gift shop. I used the built-in flash a ton for fill light. I now use the tiny Godox iT30 with my A7CR, but it is far less convenient.

I shot the Leica Q3, for awhile, with its 1/4000 leaf-shutter speed (and f1.7 lens speed). I solved the bright outdoors problem by leaving a polarizing filter on the lens which provided an effective 1.0 to 1.5 stop reduction (1/8000). This solution would not work as well with the RX1RIII with its 1/2000 mechanical shutter speed.

After the RX1RIII announcement, I was most unhappy with the lack of IBIS (or lens OS). I then realized the fatal flaw, for me personally, was the lack of tilting LCD screen. I take a lot of "low" shots and do not wish to revert back to kneeling, as I did in my younger days. Further, to avoid distortions shooting 35mm (the Zeiss lens is actually closer to 33mm) it is important to shoot people along the neutral lens axis. At a little over 6'2", I cannot achieve such at eye level.

To be perfectly honest, I was a bit angry with Sony when they released the RX1RIII spec's. I'm over it, now. My small A7CR fills my travel needs quite well (despite the annoying low-resolution EVF), so I have no room to really complain. Perhaps the RX1RIV will bring us the camera we really want(?). I'm 79, so, hopefully, I am still around.




Jul 23, 2025 at 07:33 AM





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