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Re: Sony and Canon losing market share in Japan, Nikon gaining



ruthenium wrote:
aCuria wrote:
ruthenium wrote:

JohnDizzo15 wrote:
While dropping a deuce just now (where I do most of my best thinking ), I remembered that I also wanted to point out that it took a highly successful release from Nikon just to barely surpass Sony for 1 month in a specific camera niche, in a specific niche market..

If you flip that on its head, the other way of looking at the April result is that both companies are basically in a dead heat for sales for the month, with Sony not having had a similar new FF camera release since Q3/4 of 2023.

In reality, I would take this as both a positive and a negative for Nikon. Yes, they boosted their full frame camera sales significantly for that month. Simultaneously, they were only able to basically break even with Sony, who hasn't released a shiny new toy in that range for almost 2 years. Conversely for Sony, I would take that as a win, as the next question that is begged is, "what will these numbers look like in the month that the A7V or A7CIII are released?"

Also, what do the international numbers look like? What do total ILC numbers look like?

Not trying to trash Nikon, but I'm just not a fan of articles/headlines like these.


Re "what will these numbers look like in the month that the A7V or A7CIII are released?" - I don't know, but I wonder what new features these next generation bodies would bring to make one part with a few thousand dollars?
The technology has peaked in many ways; thus I cannot think of anything except possibly slightly better AF. Sony excells in making the electronics (and lenses). I wish they invested as heavily in camera software development to add more interesting and useful computational photography features. Also new generation cameras designed for the enthusiast photographer of tomorrow can probably be more "futuristic", more appealing to the younger people.
Basically my concern is that A7V or A7CIII are going to be as exciting as A1 II when compared to A1.


One can hope for a 24MP to 33MP stacked or partially stacked sensor, fps competitive with the Canon R6ii (40fps) and Nikon Z6iii, 60fps video full frame, 120fps 4K video, pose estimation autofocus, dynamic active video stabilizer, 8.5 stops IBIS, auto subject detect, -5ev autofocus sensitivity, updated body, pre capture (z6iii has it), tilt + flip screen

2 CF-A slots would be nice but may not happen


When I picture this A7V, I cannot help seeing a hybrid of A9III and A1 - ain't gonna happen, in my opinion.


Have you seen the R6ii Specs? It came out in 2023
- $2300 including 24-105 kit lens
- 40 FPS raw
- 8 stop IBIS
- 120fps EVF
- 4k video with 1.07x crop
- -6ev autofocus



May 29, 2025 at 10:02 PM
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Re: Sony and Canon losing market share in Japan, Nikon gaining




ruthenium wrote:
aCuria wrote:
ruthenium wrote:

JohnDizzo15 wrote:
While dropping a deuce just now (where I do most of my best thinking ), I remembered that I also wanted to point out that it took a highly successful release from Nikon just to barely surpass Sony for 1 month in a specific camera niche, in a specific niche market..

If you flip that on its head, the other way of looking at the April result is that both companies are basically in a dead heat for sales for the month, with Sony not having had a similar new FF camera release since Q3/4 of 2023.

In reality, I would take this as both a positive and a negative for Nikon. Yes, they boosted their full frame camera sales significantly for that month. Simultaneously, they were only able to basically break even with Sony, who hasn't released a shiny new toy in that range for almost 2 years. Conversely for Sony, I would take that as a win, as the next question that is begged is, "what will these numbers look like in the month that the A7V or A7CIII are released?"

Also, what do the international numbers look like? What do total ILC numbers look like?

Not trying to trash Nikon, but I'm just not a fan of articles/headlines like these.


Re "what will these numbers look like in the month that the A7V or A7CIII are released?" - I don't know, but I wonder what new features these next generation bodies would bring to make one part with a few thousand dollars?
The technology has peaked in many ways; thus I cannot think of anything except possibly slightly better AF. Sony excells in making the electronics (and lenses). I wish they invested as heavily in camera software development to add more interesting and useful computational photography features. Also new generation cameras designed for the enthusiast photographer of tomorrow can probably be more "futuristic", more appealing to the younger people.
Basically my concern is that A7V or A7CIII are going to be as exciting as A1 II when compared to A1.


One can hope for a 24MP to 33MP stacked or partially stacked sensor, fps competitive with the Canon R6ii (40fps) and Nikon Z6iii, 60fps video full frame, 120fps 4K video, pose estimation autofocus, dynamic active video stabilizer, 8.5 stops IBIS, auto subject detect, -5ev autofocus sensitivity, updated body, pre capture (z6iii has it), tilt + flip screen

2 CF-A slots would be nice but may not happen


When I picture this A7V, I cannot help seeing a hybrid of A9III and A1 - ain't gonna happen, in my opinion.


More like a dupe of the R6ii



May 29, 2025 at 08:05 PM





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