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Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

My core use case is as a super X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens, that I would say as a package is worth $2.5 - $3.5K when you think about it (rationale below).

The rest of the valuation comes from the occasional benefit from the fact that this camera isn't just a super X-E4 mark II + technological marvel pancake zoom, it is, in fact a 44x33mm sensor camera on the wide end.

Super X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post? I have to believe it would demand ultra premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at $2.5K - $3.5K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere. It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me. Therein lies some of the value gap to the $5K MSRP. It still, for me, is overpriced, but it is what it is.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:39 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

My core use case is as a super X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens, that I would say as a package is worth $2.5 - $3.5K when you think about it (rationale below).

The rest of the valuation comes from the occasional benefit from the fact that this camera isn't just a super X-E4 mark II + technological marvel pancake zoom.

Super X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post? I have to believe it would demand ultra premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at $2.5K - $3.5K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere. It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me. Therein lies some of the value gap to the $5K MSRP. It still, for me, is overpriced, but it is what it is.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:38 PM

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Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

My core use case is as a X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens, that I would say as a package is worth $2.5 - $3.5K when you think about it (rationale below).

The rest of the valuation comes from the occasional benefit from the fact that this camera isn't just a super X-E4 mark II + technological marvel pancake zoom.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post? I have to believe it would demand ultra premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at $2.5K - $3.5K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere. It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me. Therein lies some of the value gap to the $5K MSRP. It still, for me, is overpriced, but it is what it is.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:36 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

My core use case is as a X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens, that I would say as a package is worth $2.5 - $3.5K when you think about it (rationale below).

The rest of the valuation comes from the occasional benefit from the fact that this camera isn't just a super X-E4 mark II + technological marvel pancake zoom.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post? I have to believe it would demand ultra premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at $2.5K - $3.5K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere. It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me. Therein lies much of the value gap to the $5K MSRP. It still, for me, is overpriced, but it is what it is.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:35 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

My core use case is as a X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens, that I would say as a package is worth $2.5 - $4K when you think about it (rationale below).

The rest of the valuation comes from the occasional benefit from the fact that this camera isn't just a super X-E4 mark II + technological marvel pancake zoom.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post? I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at $2.5K - $4K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me. Therein lies the value gap to the $5K MSRP.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:32 PM

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Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

My core use case is as a X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens, that I would say as a package is worth $2.5 - $4K when you think about it (rationale below).

The rest of the valuation comes from the occasional benefit from the fact that this camera isn't just a super X-E4 mark II + technological marvel pancake zoom.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post?? I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at $2.5K - $4K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me. Therein lies the value gap to the $5K MSRP.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:32 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

My core use case is as a X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens, that I would say as a package is worth $2.5 - $4K when you think about it (rationale below).

The rest of the valuation comes from the occasional benefit from the fact that this camera isn't just a super X-E4 mark II.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post?? I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at $2.5K - $4K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me. Therein lies the value gap to the $5K MSRP.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:31 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

My core use case is as a X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that I would say is worth $2.5 - $4K when you think about it (rationale below).

The rest of the valuation comes from the occasional benefit from the fact that this camera isn't just a super X-E4 mark II.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post?? I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at $2.5K - $4K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me. Therein lies the value gap to the $5K MSRP.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:31 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

This is an X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens priced 1.5x - 2.0x the comps, because it is a niche item.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post?? I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at $2.5K - $4K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me. Therein lies the value gap to the $5K MSRP.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:05 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

This is an X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens priced 1.5x - 2.0x the comps, because it is a niche item.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? $2K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. Editable zoom in post?? I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at ~$2.5K - $4K in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that unimaginable pancake zoom lens anywhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:04 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

This is an X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens priced 1.5x - 2.0x the comps, because it is a niche item.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom **that is editable in post**.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at ~$2.5K - $3K+ in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:03 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

This is an X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens priced 1.5x - 2.0x the comps, because it is a niche item.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom that is editable in post.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at ~$2.5K - $3K+ in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 05:03 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

This is an X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens priced 1.5x - 2.0x the comps, because it is a niche item.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. I will note -- this is not a power zoom. Nor is it a manual zoom. This is an instant, flick of a switch Tri-Elmar style zoom.

The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at ~$2.5K - $3K+ in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

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Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

This is an X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens priced 1.5x - 2.0x the comps, because it is a niche item.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18-35mm, F2.0-3.6 pancake internal zoom. The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at ~$2.5K - $3K+ in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF in this form factor elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

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Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

This is an X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18 mm - 33 mm F2.1 - F3.7 pancake internal zoom lens priced 1.5x - 2.0x the comps, because it is a niche item.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18mm - 35mm, F2.0 - 3.6 pancake internal zoom. The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at ~$2.5K - $3K+ in my estimation. But you can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:58 PM

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Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

This is an X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18 mm - 33 mm F2.1 - F3.7 pancake internal zoom lens priced 1.5x - 2.0x the comps, because it is a niche item.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18mm - 35mm, F2.0 - 3.6 pancake internal zoom. The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K+? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality at ~$2.5K - $3K+ in my estimation. But the pricing for just this hypothetical X-E4 mark II + XF 18mm - 35mm, $2.5K - 3K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:57 PM

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Here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of it.

This is an X-E4 mark II, limited to an XF 18 mm - 33 mm F2.1 - F3.7 pancake internal zoom lens priced 1.5x - 2.0x the comps, because it is a niche item.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a big deal killer for me with the E4) is significantly better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far superior performance. Presumably, it has superior low light, dynamic range and other performance to the existing X-E4 today.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? At least, $1.5K, if not $2K. How do you price that EVF, while taking into account this would not be a ILC?

Speaking of the lens, let's use approximate and familiar numbers. An XF 18mm - 35mm, F2.0 - 3.6 pancake internal zoom. The benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness. I have to believe it would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it remains overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just this hypothetical X-E4 mark II + XF 18mm - 35mm, $2.5K - 3K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

It costs what it costs. I'm not waiting for an X-Pro 5 that *might* have some of this functionality.

And I will add, this camera does have the occasional 44x33mm image quality shot, which is a nice benefit to me.

This is why this camera makes sense to me, an admittedly non-44x33mm consumer. My needs may be APS-C and 24 megapixels (with output usually in the 8 megapixel area). But as a compact 28mm - 50mm, ~F5.6 shooter, this camera fits my use case in a very unique way.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:56 PM

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new (let's just approximate familiar numbers) XF 18mm - 35mm F2.0 - 3.6 pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today. I'm not going to wait if / until, Fuji releases an X-Pro 5 that *might* have this stuff (and that camera will certainly cost more than $1.5K).

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance and dynamic range (I assume), occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it, at least initially, not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:43 PM

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new (let's just approximate familiar numbers) XF 18mm - 35mm F2.0 - 3.6 pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.*** I'm not going to wait if / until, Fuji releases an X-Pro 5 that *might* have this stuff (and that camera will certainly cost more than $1.5K).

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance and dynamic range (I assume), occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it, at least initially, not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

***[ETA before someone mentions another full frame camera + lens, please confirm the UI has a distance scale with proper feet or meter indicators. DoF zones are nice but not necessary. Last I checked, Sony, Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, etc., do not have distance scales with meters or feet indications. Only Fuji, Hasselblad, Ricoh. Also needs a tilting LCD, not articulating.]

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:41 PM

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new (let's just approximate familiar numbers) XF 18mm - 35mm F2.0 - 3.6 pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.*** I don't get to wait if / until, Fuji releases an X-Pro 5 that *might* have this stuff (and that camera will certainly cost more than $1.5K).

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance and dynamic range (I assume), occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it, at least initially, not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

***[ETA before someone mentions another full frame camera + lens, please confirm the UI has a distance scale with proper feet or meter indicators. DoF zones are nice but not necessary. Last I checked, Sony, Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, etc., do not have distance scales with meters or feet indications. Only Fuji, Hasselblad, Ricoh. Also needs a tilting LCD, not articulating.]

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:30 PM

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new (let's just approximate familiar numbers) XF 18mm - 35mm F2.0 - 3.6 pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.***

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance and dynamic range (I assume), occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it, at least initially, not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

***[ETA before someone mentions another full frame camera + lens, please confirm the UI has a distance scale with proper feet or meter indicators. DoF zones are nice but not necessary. Last I checked, Sony, Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, etc., do not have distance scales with meters or feet indications. Only Fuji, Hasselblad, Ricoh. Also needs a tilting LCD, not articulating.]

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:25 PM

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new (let's just approximate familiar numbers) XF 18mm - 33mm F2.0 - 3.6 pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.***

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance and dynamic range (I assume), occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it, at least initially, not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

***[ETA before someone mentions another full frame camera + lens, please confirm the UI has a distance scale with proper feet or meter indicators. DoF zones are nice but not necessary. Last I checked, Sony, Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, etc., do not have distance scales with meters or feet indications. Only Fuji, Hasselblad, Ricoh. Also needs a tilting LCD, not articulating.]

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.***

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance and dynamic range (I assume), occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it, at least initially, not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

***[ETA before someone mentions another full frame camera + lens, please confirm the UI has a distance scale with proper feet or meter indicators. DoF zones are nice but not necessary. Last I checked, Sony, Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, etc., do not have distance scales with meters or feet indications. Only Fuji, Hasselblad, Ricoh. Also needs a tilting LCD, not articulating.]

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.***

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance and dynamic range (I assume), occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it, at least initially, not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

***[ETA before someone mentions another full frame camera + lens, please confirm the UI has a distance scale with proper feet or meter indicators. DoF zones are nice but not necessary. Last I checked, Sony, Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, etc., do not have distance scales with meters or feet indications. Only Fuji, Hasselblad, Ricoh. Also needs a tilting LCD, not articulating.]

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:19 PM

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance and dynamic range (I assume), occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it, at least initially, not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:10 PM

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance, occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it, at least initially, not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:08 PM

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance.

Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes -- again, this is what I really want out of this camera.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance, occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it being, at least initially not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

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This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera, at least for me, and what I want out of this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance. Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is, and I have to pay for what's on the market today.

And this camera is more than that, even if the truth is all the other stuff -- better low light performance, occasional 44x33mm image quality shots, that's all gravy to me.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it being, at least initially not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:06 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance. Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K? Limited focal range and aperture, but with incredible size and sharpness would demand premium pricing.

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is.

And this camera is more than that.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it being, at least initially not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:04 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance. Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K?

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere. It just is what it is.

And this camera is more than that.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it being, at least initially not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:02 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance. Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K?

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

And this camera is more than that.

I think this is why I'm comfortable buying this camera, despite it being, at least initially not making much sense that I (the APS-C is fine guy, 8 megapixel output is fine, 24 is plenty to work with) would buy a 44x33mm camera.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:01 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance. Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K?

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

And this camera is more than that.

I think this is why, as much as I wonder why I'm comfortable buying a camera that in many ways on the face of it didn't make any sense to me (the APS-C is fine guy, the rangefinder 28mm with occasional 35mm and 50mm F5.6 bread and butter who wants to try XPan and 4:3 guy) am buying this camera.

Apr 07, 2025 at 04:00 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance. Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K?

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

And this camera is more than that.

But do you medium format-background guys now understand why I (the APS-C is fine guy, the rangefinder 28mm with occasional 35mm and 50mm F5.6 bread and butter who wants to try XPan and 4:3 guy) am buying this camera?

Apr 07, 2025 at 03:58 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance. Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K?

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. You can't get that EVF elsewhere. You can't get that pancake lens elsewhere.

And this camera is more than that.

But do you medium format-background guys now understand why I (the APS-C is fine guy, the rangefinder 28mm with occasional 35mm and 50mm F5.6 bread and butter guy) am buying this camera?

Apr 07, 2025 at 03:58 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance. Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits (and limitations) are obvious. Pricing? $1K?

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. And this camera is more than that.

But do you medium format-background guys now understand why I (the APS-C is fine guy, the rangefinder 28mm with occasional 35mm and 50mm F5.6 bread and butter guy) am buying this camera?

Apr 07, 2025 at 03:54 PM

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Re: Fujifilm GFX100RF Discussion Thread

This is kind of silly. But here's another way to frame this camera.

This is an X-E4 mark II packed with an XF 18mm-33mm F2.1-3.7 pancake internal zoom lens that is priced double what it's worth.

X-E4 mark II because the EVF (which was a deal killer for me for the E4 I just sold) is much much better, and it has a 31 megapixel sensor that is capable of, in some instances at the wide range, far, far superior performance. Mark II because it has updated firmware and physical hardware that allows for aspect ratio changes.

Pricing for this camera? I dunno, $1.5K? How do you price that EVF or the fact that this camera is obviously much, much more than what I am describing?

And this new pancake internal zoom lens -- the benefits are obvious. Pricing? $1K?

So yes, it is way, way overpriced for just this functionality. But the pricing for just the mega X-E4 mark II + internal pancake zoom alone is at least $2.5K. And this camera is more than that.

But do you medium format-background guys now understand why I (the APS-C is fine guy, the rangefinder 28mm with occasional 35mm and 50mm F5.6 bread and butter guy) am buying this camera?

Apr 07, 2025 at 03:48 PM


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