IBIS and brighter lens are not needed in street photography. But they would make the much more versatile - with the expense of larger size and higher price. Closer to Hasselblad X2d territory. I think I can live with the compromise Fuji choosed to make.
+1
The matter of general versatility with IBIS ... I think that is well understood that it has a certain value to it. But, to your point, I've rarely shot street with the Q2 at f/1.7. Generally speaking, I try to shoot around f/4 - f/5.6 (FF terms), so the f/4 on the GFX 100RF doesn't seem out of line with that. And, as to shutter speeds (i.e. slow enough to NEED IBIS with a wide lens) ... those are shutter speeds that are going to incur (subject) motion blur.
So, if I'm trying to AVOID subject motion blur, I'm shooting with an SS that is high enough that IBIS isn't needed.
Alternatively, if I'm trying to EMBRACE subject motion blur with a slow / drag / pan shutter (i.e. slow enough that IBIS could be helpful, duly noted that it can be) ... my "tolerance" for camera motion blur in conjunction with (and relative to) subject motion blur is different than shooting static subjects for perfect detail.
Again, that's not to suggest IBIS isn't without its merit. But, as there are a zillion folks shooting Leica M cameras ... all without IBIS, it is self-evident that IBIS isn't the end all / need all for such work. And, the fact that one of the members in this thread reverted from an IBIS X100VI to a non-IBIS X100V ... well, IBIS has its value ... and use case. But, the lack of IBIS is far from being the "kiss of death" for not being in the GFX 100RF (imo). Never mind that the DR of the GFX 100RF is more than +2 EV (Max PDR) , over the smaller 100V or 100VI and nearly two stops better in low light. Those two stops ... can be the difference between say 1/15s and 1/60s, which moves the wide lens + leaf shutter back into don't need IBIS territory ... or for steady hands, from 1/4s > 1/15s, etc. YMMV.
BTW, that earlier video with the photographer bracing the "side" of the camera against the building was cool to see. I've braced a lot of different ways, but it was still cool to see someone doing it.
IBIS and brighter lens are not needed in street photography. But they would make the much more versatile - with the expense of larger size and higher price. Closer to Hasselblad X2d territory. I think I can live with the compromise Fuji choosed to make.
+1
The matter of general versatility with IBIS ... I think that is well understood that it has a certain value to it. But, to your point, I've rarely shot street with the Q2 at f/1.7. Generally speaking, I try to shoot around f/4 - f/5.6 (FF terms), so the f/4 on the GFX 100RF doesn't seem out of line with that. And, as to shutter speeds (i.e. slow enough to NEED IBIS with a wide lens) ... those are shutter speeds that are going to incur (subject) motion blur.
So, if I'm trying to AVOID subject motion blur, I'm shooting with an SS that is high enough that IBIS isn't needed.
Alternatively, if I'm trying to EMBRACE subject motion blur with a slow / drag / pan shutter (i.e. slow enough that IBIS could be helpful, duly noted that it can be) ... my "tolerance" for camera motion blur in conjunction with (and relative to) subject motion blur is different than shooting static subjects for perfect detail.
Again, that's not to suggest IBIS isn't without its merit. But, as there are a zillion folks shooting Leica M cameras ... all without IBIS, it is self-evident that IBIS isn't the end all / need all for such work. And, the fact that one of the members in this thread reverted from an IBIS X100VI to a non-IBIS X100V ... well, IBIS has its value ... and use case. But, the lack of IBIS is far from being the "kiss of death" for not being in the GFX 100RF (imo). Never mind that the DR of the GFX 100RF is more than +2 EV (Max PDR) , over the smaller 100V or 100VI and nearly two stops better in low light. Those two stops ... can be the difference between say 1/15s and 1/60s, which moves the wide lens + leaf shutter back into don't need IBIS territory ... or for steady hands, from 1/4s > 1/15s, etc. YMMV.
BTW, that earlier video with the photographer bracing the "side" of the camera against the building was cool to see. I've braced a lot of different ways, but it was still cool to see someone doing it.
IBIS and brighter lens are not needed in street photography. But they would make the much more versatile - with the expense of larger size and higher price. Closer to Hasselblad X2d territory. I think I can live with the compromise Fuji choosed to make.
+1
The matter of general versatility with IBIS ... I think that is well understood that it has a certain value to it. But, to your point, I've rarely shot street with the Q2 at f/1.7. Generally speaking, I try to shoot around f/4 - f/5.6 (FF terms), so the f/4 on the GFX 100RF doesn't seem out of line with that. And, as to shutter speeds (i.e. slow enough to NEED IBIS with a wide lens) ... those are shutter speeds that are going to incur (subject) motion blur.
So, if I'm trying to AVOID subject motion blur, I'm shooting with an SS that is high enough that IBIS isn't needed.
Alternatively, if I'm trying to EMBRACE subject motion blur with a slow / drag / pan shutter (i.e. slow enough that IBIS could be helpful, duly noted that it can be) ... my "tolerance" for camera motion blur in conjunction with (and relative to) subject motion blur is different than shooting static subjects for perfect detail.
Again, that's not to suggest IBIS isn't without its merit. But, as there are a zillion folks shooting Leica M cameras ... all without IBIS, it is self-evident that IBIS isn't the end all / need all for such work. And, the fact that one of the members in this thread reverted from an IBIS X100VI to a non-IBIS X100V ... well, IBIS has its value ... and use case. But, the lack of IBIS is far from being the "kiss of death" for not being in the GFX 100RF (imo).
BTW, that earlier video with the photographer bracing the "side" of the camera against the building was cool to see. I've braced a lot of different ways, but it was still cool to see someone doing it.
Apr 06, 2025 at 08:21 AM
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