modlin wrote:
Don't get it...is still going to be a rangefinder?..or ttl?
Sounds like it has no choice ...
TTL with an electronic viewfinder in the traditional location of a rangefinder, with an M mount suitable for M mount, rangefinder lenses, and with the appropriate adapter, R, S and non-Leica manual focus lenses.
Kinda makes me think that the M11 was the "warm-up" to this ... by necessitating the removal of the blades, and reading off the sensor for matrix metering, sets up the same TTL for the EVF viewfinder.
At this point, the only real aspect to "associate" to rangefinder is the corner location of the EVF, and the native M lens mount is a "rangefinder" mount.
In essence, it seems that it would NOT be a rangefinder, by pure definition of what a rangefinder is vs. isn't. At best, it is mirrorless TTL in a "rangefinder-like" form factor of the classic Leica M.
Something about Shakespeare and Roses comes to mind. That, and if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck ... it's a TTL mirrorless camera.
Unless, they have something up their sleeve to harness / utilize the rangefinder coupling (e.g. a distance scale in the EVF, that correlates to the RF coupling), the rangefinder coupling is DOA, by most basic considerations / expectations.
We'll see if they've got something to salvage the functionality of RF coupling in the engineering bag-o-tricks.
Otherwise ... yup, it looks to be a mirrorless / TTL.
I mean, the Fuji GFX 50R or 100 RF or 100 VI or X-Pro 3 ... how is that any different, in terms of it being (or not) a rangefinder vs. a mirrorless in the form factor of a traditional rangefinder, compared to the M11-V? Sounds kinda blasphemous, but functionally (wrt rangefinder vs. TTL) ... what's the diff (other than the obvious fixed lens vs. ILC) between the Fuji bodies and the M11-V? For that matter, the Sony A7CR has a similar EVF in the RF position ... and, even back to the fixed lens Leica Q, as having the EVF in the RF position, but actually, being TTL mirrorless.
It can still be an M, but I'm not sure how it can still be a rangefinder. I guess we'll just be waiting to be shown otherwise.
modlin wrote:
Don't get it...is still going to be a rangefinder?..or ttl?
Sounds like it has no choice ...
TTL with an electronic viewfinder in the traditional location of a rangefinder, with an M mount suitable for M mount, rangefinder lenses, and with the appropriate adapter, R, S and non-Leica manual focus lenses.
Kinda makes me think that the M11 was the "warm-up" to this ... by necessitating the removal of the blades, and reading off the sensor for matrix metering, sets up the same TTL for the EVF viewfinder.
At this point, the only real aspect to "associate" to rangefinder is the corner location of the EVF, and the native M lens mount is a "rangefinder" mount.
In essence, it seems that it would NOT be a rangefinder, by pure definition of what a rangefinder is vs. isn't. At best, it is mirrorless TTL in a "rangefinder-like" form factor of the classic Leica M.
Something about Shakespeare and Roses comes to mind. That, and if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck ... it's a TTL mirrorless camera.
Unless, they have something up their sleeve to harness / utilize the rangefinder coupling (e.g. a distance scale in the EVF, that correlates to the RF coupling), the rangefinder coupling is DOA, by most basic considerations / expectations.
We'll see if they've got something to salvage the functionality of RF coupling in the engineering bag-o-tricks.
Otherwise ... yup, it looks to be a mirrorless / TTL.
I mean, the Fuji GFX 50R or 100 RF or 100 VI or X-Pro 3 ... how is that any different, in terms of it being (or not) a rangefinder vs. a mirrorless in the form factor of a traditional rangefinder, compared to the M11-V? Sounds kinda blasphemous, but functionally (wrt rangefinder vs. TTL) ... what's the diff (other than the obvious fixed lens vs. ILC) between the Fuji bodies and the M11-V? For that matter, the Sony A7CR has a similar EVF in the RF position ...
It can still be an M, but I'm not sure how it can still be a rangefinder. I guess we'll just be waiting to be shown otherwise.
Mar 22, 2025 at 11:10 PM
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