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 Re: After testing Z8 and having focus issues I may go to the Sony A7RV | |
sungphoto wrote:
cvrle59 wrote:
tzhang4284 wrote:
AlphaPhotography wrote:
This may or may not be off topic but has something changed around here on FM in the past few years? When I began spending more time here and less on DPreview it was due to the FM community being much more helpful, less engaged in attacks or insults, and just generally a much better forum to get real answers on without all the drama. I'm not saying I've been insulted by any means but the level of drama in this thread combined with the non-answers and snide remarks feels very different than the FM I remember from a few years ago.
I think it's this forum - I find the Sony and Leica forums generally more cordial. There's a lot of Nikon brand fanaticism here.
That said, I do think you might be overthinking your decision a bit much. Unless you're looking to photograph or record some very challenging situations - I think the Z8 can handle it well. I spent some more time with my Z6III this afternoon on a family walk - for a standard head and shoulder portrait with the 24-120mm f4, the eye af performed really well and is very close to some old shots I took with the 135mm f1.8 and sony a7r v. Where I think it falls apart is if there's a lot of action and if you crank up the ISO - I think Sony hangs in there longer on the eye af partly due to the AF motor of the lenses.
For the intended uses of a 85mm f1.2 lens, I don't think you should be worried about the eye af quality. Also for your Alaska trip, I'd go with the 180-600mm and 14-30mm over the 100-500mm or a 28-400mm. I went on a quick camping trip a few years ago and grabbed the sony a1, 200-600mm, 16-35mm, a 28-60mm kit lens, and a tripod. Most of my images were taken on the first two lenses and the weight was manageable. Getting to 600mm is valuable given some of the wildlife out there and I'd take that over losing 100mm on the wide end.
I disagree with your "Nikon brand fanaticism", I see nothing like it here in this forum, people just like to shoot with Nikon for different reasons, and they don't care about other brands.
I've been here since 2011, and I'm pretty confident that Nikon community is nothing like some trying to provoke, or describe like.
I don't want to repeat, you can go back and read LanceB's post on previous page, he summarized it the way I see it as well.
You would see pretty much the same thing in any other forum, if one or more Nikon shooters, who don't even owe particular gear, with no experience on it,
would go over there to lecture others constantly, trying to explain to them how wrong life they live choosing that particular brand.
I exaggerated it a bit, for sure, but that's how it sounds like.
And that particular member or two never give up, never go away, they go there as soon as Nikon is mentioned in those forums, or it smells it's gonna be mentioned.
In simple word, it's about constant provocation and reaction to it, not fanaticism!
Yeah, especially when the red flags are everywhere. You claim you've owned a D850 "10 years" (3 years longer than it's been available), and claim to be a working photographer that does "GQ covers all the time" and works with the best digis in the world, why would a Z8 be a stumbling block when out of the box it is superior in terms of AF than the D850 and D810?
Furthermore, why would a mature working photographer think that a new piece of gear would only take 1 day to master, and care so much about what people on forums think? It all screams troll.
Yes, it is so obvious, but OP's advocate is still pushing his well known narative, with some really toxic wording.
I would friendly advise all people here who supported that kind of wording, and reaction, to carefully study Nikon forum, they will definitely recognize pattern, and reasons for.
So many great people in this forum don't want to come out from shade because of him.
I have no idea why I did, but most likely, this is gonna be the last one to argue with such a non sense.
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