Re: Leica M11 '100 YEARS OF LEICA' anniversary edition camera
Desmolicious wrote: 1bwana1 wrote: Desmolicious wrote:
Fyi one of my sisters lives in Dubai. And in the same sentence that she was telling me how great it was, she also told me she was taking her maid to the hospital for ‘lower class people’ because they were not allowed to go to the good hospitals.
And she wonders why I refuse to visit her in Dubai. When I do see her, it is when we travel to mutual destinations such as visiting family in England, or she comes to the US.
I am not defending an official multi class society. But, that is the reality of life in most Countries. I am also betting that the hospital for non citizens in Dubai is better than the hospital they would get in their Country of origin. The Emirati see nothing wrong with providing a special level of benefits to themselves. It permeates everywhere.
The National Health System in England doesn't provide the same level of health care as the private self pay, even there. Same here, Italy, everywhere I have lived in my life.
There is a big difference. Her maid is NOT ALLOWED in the good hospitals even if my sister was willing to pay for everything.
She is not allowed in the best hospitals, the free Government ones for UAE Citizens. You and I are not either. I understand that, I have been there many times. You are correct there are different categories of people there. The foreign workers are discriminated in many areas not just Healthcare. But they are there because it is still better than where they came from.
It reminds me of the time in the late 1970s in Kenya. There was only one T.V. station, the Voice of Kenya. It used to buy a lot of European produced content. They once bought a show that said it was a documentary showing the horrible life the African of South Africa lived under the very strict Apartheid Regime there in that time. It must have been aired without being previewed. After it aired many in Kenya were livid that the Africans in South Africa had better healthcare, education, food, housing and overall lifestyle than most Kenyans. People were fired at VOK over this.
My point is not that system like Apartheid are acceptable. They are not. But conditions are primarily related to from the hill you are sitting on. From your perspective the separate service eligibilities are offensive.
Dubai has one of the best and most advanced healthcare systems in the World. The free healthcare systems for Emiratis is one of the best. Not a citizen, you can't go there. Money doesn't help. Then there is the private healthcare operated as a business. As an expat you can buy into this system through insurance. It is also excellent. Not in the insurance program, you can't go there. Then there is the healthcare as a destination business. I am guessing that if your sister paid those prices her person could get treatment there. It is only about money. People come from all over the World to take advantage of this high level of care. If you are a contract low level worker you get free/very low cost healthcare form government services again. This is for sure budget healthcare.
It is in the end it is more about money than anything else.
When I am there I have a Emirati driver. Some of the police there drive exotic sports cars. I have always wanted to get pulled over and take a picture getting a ticket from a Bugatti Police car. It seems like whatever we do, when they see who is driving they never pull us over. It is an unequal society there for sure. But recognize that even here, the poor are not getting the same health services or outcomes as the affluent.
Re: Leica M11 '100 YEARS OF LEICA' anniversary edition camera
Desmolicious wrote: 1bwana1 wrote: Desmolicious wrote:
Fyi one of my sisters lives in Dubai. And in the same sentence that she was telling me how great it was, she also told me she was taking her maid to the hospital for ‘lower class people’ because they were not allowed to go to the good hospitals.
And she wonders why I refuse to visit her in Dubai. When I do see her, it is when we travel to mutual destinations such as visiting family in England, or she comes to the US.
I am not defending an official multi class society. But, that is the reality of life in most Countries. I am also betting that the hospital for non citizens in Dubai is better than the hospital they would get in their Country of origin. The Emirati see nothing wrong with providing a special level of benefits to themselves. It permeates everywhere.
The National Health System in England doesn't provide the same level of health care as the private self pay, even there. Same here, Italy, everywhere I have lived in my life.
There is a big difference. Her maid is NOT ALLOWED in the good hospitals even if my sister was willing to pay for everything.
I understand that, I have been there many times. You are correct there are different categories of people there. The foreign workers are discriminated in many areas not just Healthcare. But they are there because it is still better than where they came from.
It reminds me of the time in the late 1970s in Kenya. There was only one T.V. station, the Voice of Kenya. It used to buy a lot of European produced content. They once bought a show that said it was a documentary showing the horrible life the African of South Africa lived under the very strict Apartheid Regime there in that time. It must have been aired without being previewed. After it aired many in Kenya were livid that the Africans in South Africa had better healthcare, education, food, housing and overall lifestyle than most Kenyans. People were fired at VOK over this.
My point is not that system like Apartheid are acceptable. They are not. But conditions are primarily related to from the hill you are sitting on. From your perspective the separate service eligibilities are offensive.
Dubai has one of the best and most advanced healthcare systems in the World. The free healthcare systems for Emiratis is one of the best. Not a citizen, you can;'t go there. MOney doesn't help. Then there is the private healthcare operated as a business. As an expat you can buy into this system through insurance. Not in the insurance program, you can't go there. Then there is the healthcare as a destination business. I am guessing that if your sister paid those prices her person could get treatment there. People come from all over the World to take advantage of this high level of care. If you are a contract low level worker you get free/very low cost healthcare form government services again.
It is in the end more about money than anything else.
When I am there I have a Emirati driver. Some of the police there drive exotic sports cars. I have always wanted to get pulled over and take a picture getting a ticket from a Bugatti Police car. It seems like whatever we do, when they see who is driving they never pull us over. It is an unequal society there for sure. But recognize that even here, the poor are not getting the same health services or outcomes as the affluent.
Jan 23, 2025 at 01:59 PM
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