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Re: Why are Leicas so expensive?


1bwana1 wrote:
RustyBug wrote:
1bwana1 wrote:
dalegaspi wrote:
i've been a user of M's since the Leica M6-TTL and have owned M8, M9 and M240 ..i have the M11 since shortly after launch and i honestly don't particularly love the shutter action since it's now ...just like any other mirrorless camera which measures exposure from sensor and therefore has to close it first before making an actual exposure and the sound/feedback feels "wrong" and i still haven't gotten used to it. this could be mitigated if the camera has EFCS but it has been speculated that its shutter design (just like the SL series) cannot support EFCS otherwise we would have gotten a firmware update already.

and call me a luddite but i very much prefer the pre-M11's removable bottom to change battery and SD card. the M11 mechanism while convenient feels cheap and fragile with that plastic battery cover and the way SD card is slotted in the area where you can see the battery compartment.

i also particularly annoyed that i needed to go with a silver finish to get the brass body (well, at least the top anyway) because i normally buy black finish which is made of aluminum...and can't help but roll my eyes whenever a YouTuber/reviewer mentions this talking point about the black being "lighter" by some ridiculously small relatively-insignificant amount. the newer silver lenses that used to be brass are also now anodized aluminum...i don't like where this is going because as long time users will point out that having brass material now becomes a reason for Leica to only use them exclusively in special edition cameras in the future.


OK you are a Luddite.

Looks like Leica is moving away from your preferences and you will need to pony up for the more expensive special additions. The good news is that you still have the choice to do that.


Is having a brass top plate an option? I mean, "brassing" looks best when it's ... ummm, uhh, ummm ... oh yeah, brass.

I remember an "old timer", long ago ... telling me to look for bodies that were nicely brassed, but no dings. The take away was that it was a well-loved (i.e. used reliably and extensively), and well cared for (no dings / damage). Of course, with today's anodized aluminum, and high-tech paint ... the concept of meaningful brassing is about to be lost to history and the memories of old farts.

That, and the fact that ... unlike film cameras where you can keep the same body for years / decades ... digital bodies get turned over far faster than film cameras, not really ample time for "good brassing" to occur. At least, I haven't seen any good brassing for quite a while (and fake repaint jobs, don't count).


Yes, it is but on the Back Paint editions it appears. I agree, nothing replaces the natural brassing that takes place from years of use.

It looks like Leica has decided that this is a premium finish option, but it is available.

https://leica-camera.com/en-US/photography/cameras/m/m11-glossy-black-paint-finish


Gotcha ... Black Paint version. Too much premium for me. And, since it's got a "collectors" tag to it, what's the likelihood that very many folks are actually gonna use it as a daily carry for years to get the brassing patina.



Dec 28, 2024 at 11:55 PM





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