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The D-Lux though, based on common internet wisdom, is 'simply' a Panasonic rebadge. And an old one at that. The age of the tech in that camera only compounds the argument many make that it is severely overpriced. Similar arguments can be made about the L-mount system. Most of it is sourced from other manufacturers, and some also available from those manufacturers' own product lines, albeit not as 'refined' as the Leica versions.

Interestingly the D-Lux 8 was a gear of the year pick for one of the DPR editors. Browse the comments and you will quickly see the many reasons given why at least this Leica is overpriced.




I don't know that i fully agree with this assessment of the D-Lux 8 Ron. I have one it provides a very Leica user experience unlike the previous versions in the D-Lux line. They were very much rebranded Panasonics. That is no longer the case.

Common internet wisdom is often 100% wrong as the recent poling and election results demonstrated so well. I thinking it likely that those making such posts have no real experience with the D-Lux 8.


Just about every component of the D-Lux 8 is new and different than the D-Lux 7. The body, all controls, all, ports, the wireless components, the USB-C components, are all new. The firmware and user interface is fully new and fully in line with current Leica products. The camera feels and works very much like a Q.

Remember, the Q lenses are Panasonic lenses too. Panasonic has what is often said to be the Worlds most advanced Aspherical lens manufacturing plant. The make the aspherical elements for many of the highest quality brands. The Q lenses have also not changed between different generations of the Q cameras. If Leica doesn't think they can do better than the existing lens, then why change it?

There are some that say that the base sensor is not the same as well. Parialy evidenced by improved power efficiency and dynamic range. I am not sure about this.

Can you show me a similar camera quality wise, with this zoom range, and form factor, for significantly less money. I don't know of one. That I think is why there are long wait lists Worldwide for this camera.

When used within its performance range the D-Lux 8 produces excellent quality images.



Dec 19, 2024 at 12:32 AM
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Re: Why are Leicas so expensive?


rscheffler wrote:


The D-Lux though, based on common internet wisdom, is 'simply' a Panasonic rebadge. And an old one at that. The age of the tech in that camera only compounds the argument many make that it is severely overpriced. Similar arguments can be made about the L-mount system. Most of it is sourced from other manufacturers, and some also available from those manufacturers' own product lines, albeit not as 'refined' as the Leica versions.

Interestingly the D-Lux 8 was a gear of the year pick for one of the DPR editors. Browse the comments and you will quickly see the many reasons given why at least this Leica is overpriced.




I don't know that i fully agree with this assessment of the D-Lux 8 Ron. I have one it provides a very Leica user experience unlike the previous versions in the D-Lux line. They were very much rebranded Panasonics. That is no longer the case.

Common internet wisdom is often 100% wrong as the recent poling and election results demonstrated so well. I thinking it likely that those making such posts have no real experience with the D-Lux 8.


Just about every component of the D-Lux 8 is new and different that the D-Lux 7. The body, all controls, all, ports, the wireless components, the USB-C components, are all new. The firmware and user interface is fully new and fully in line with current Leica products. The camera feels and works very much like a Q.

Remember, the Q lenses are Panasonic lenses too. Panasonic has what is often said to be the Worlds most advanced Aspherical lens manufacturing plant. The make the aspherical elements for many of the highest quality brands. The Q lenses have also not changed between different generations of the Q cameras. If Leica doesn't think they can do better than the existing lens, then why change it?

There are some that say that the base sensor is not the same as well. Parialy evidenced by improved power efficiency and dynamic range. I am not sure about this.

Can you show me a similar camera quality wise, with this zoom range, and form factor, for significantly less money. I don't know of one. That I think is why there are long wait lists Worldwide for this camera.

When used within its performance range the D-Lux 8 produces excellent quality images.



Dec 18, 2024 at 11:22 PM





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