Re: Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM II Announced—Pre-Orders Now Open!
swldstn wrote: Mystik wrote: Steve Spencer wrote: j4nu wrote:
I prefer the GM I images because the bokeh is nicer. No one (except us lunatics) care about sharpness at 100%, especially at this minute level. Without a side-by-side comparison, I wouldn't be able to distinguish the sharpness between the two, but I can definitely tell the bokeh.
I totally agree. Interesting after our early difficult discussion with some nice examples we come to the same place. Of course others have different views and that is ok. I agree with Phillip there seems to be a sharpness/bokeh tradeoff. I don't care about the sharpness as the GM I is plenty sharp for my intended purposes and I see and appreciate the bokeh from this lens. I can see why others might prefer the sharpness, however, of the GM II and the much better AF it provides. I am glad we have both choices from Sony and the small and competent Sigma 85 DG DN as well.
It seems when people speak of sharpness they're really talking about the difference in contrast due to the undercorrected SA in the GM when there's a lot of ambient light in the frame. The glow. The undercorrected SA also contributes to the quality of the bokeh
When the light is flat (set 3 above), it's hard to call the GMI soft as the eyes are sharp enough to pop from the frame, and at normal viewing magnification I don't find that GMII is materially sharper. Of course if you pixel peep, the GMII is sharper.
So with your access to both, don’t know if you have bought yet, what did you decide ? I have the GM I right now but also the 50/1.2 GM, 135/1.8 GM, and Canon RF 50/1.2L, RF 85/1.2L and RF 135/1.8 L IS so if I do get it I’m going to have to decide what I want to sell.
Undecided for now. I think the GMII has a lot to offer as its a more versatile lens, but for my use cases for the 85GMI, it not only is good enough. From a rendering perspective, I prefer the MKI as my bread and butter gigs have me shooting outdoors.
Where I do want the MKII is for wedding work, but I don't do much that these days.
As a point of reference, this is the type of stuff I shoot with the 85GM now and why I tend to prefer it over the MKII for my use case
Re: Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM II Announced—Pre-Orders Now Open!
swldstn wrote: Mystik wrote: Steve Spencer wrote: j4nu wrote:
I prefer the GM I images because the bokeh is nicer. No one (except us lunatics) care about sharpness at 100%, especially at this minute level. Without a side-by-side comparison, I wouldn't be able to distinguish the sharpness between the two, but I can definitely tell the bokeh.
I totally agree. Interesting after our early difficult discussion with some nice examples we come to the same place. Of course others have different views and that is ok. I agree with Phillip there seems to be a sharpness/bokeh tradeoff. I don't care about the sharpness as the GM I is plenty sharp for my intended purposes and I see and appreciate the bokeh from this lens. I can see why others might prefer the sharpness, however, of the GM II and the much better AF it provides. I am glad we have both choices from Sony and the small and competent Sigma 85 DG DN as well.
It seems when people speak of sharpness they're really talking about the difference in contrast due to the undercorrected SA in the GM when there's a lot of ambient light in the frame. The glow. The undercorrected SA also contributes to the quality of the bokeh
When the light is flat (set 3 above), it's hard to call the GMI soft as the eyes are sharp enough to pop from the frame, and at normal viewing magnification I don't find that GMII is materially sharper. Of course if you pixel peep, the GMII is sharper.
So with your access to both, don’t know if you have bought yet, what did you decide ? I have the GM I right now but also the 50/1.2 GM, 135/1.8 GM, and Canon RF 50/1.2L, RF 85/1.2L and RF 135/1.8 L IS so if I do get it I’m going to have to decide what I want to sell.
Undecided for now. I think the GMII has a lot to offer as its a more versatile lens, but for my use cases for the 85GMI, it not only is good enough. From a rendering perspective, I prefer the MKI as my bread and butter gigs have me shooting outdoors.
Where I do want the MKII is for wedding work, but I don't do much that these days.
Oct 01, 2024 at 11:38 AM
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