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 Re: Official Announcement: Leica Q3 43 Digital Camera Released! | |
rollei35_warton wrote:
1bwana1 wrote:
TENOG wrote:
1bwana1 wrote:
Raptor_Fan76 wrote:
Was this a comment intended to troll, or do you genuinely believe what you wrote? I’m terrible at recognizing sarcasm, so have to ask.
tzhang4284 wrote:
taking your statement to its logical conclusion, why stop at the D-Lux 8? Just go with an iPhone 16 Pro - you get an even wider focal range and more megapixels with a free phone and computer thrown in.
My guess is that neither one of you has spent time shooting the D-Lux 8. I have, and Huss is correct. The D-Lux 8 is a full fledged Leica camera now. It offers the same owner, and shooting experience that all the current Leica cameras do. Same materials, same buttons, same communication protocols, same integration with FOTOS, same workflow, same menus, same DNG files (now 12 bit) . Everything. Hold one in your hand. Shoot one. You will see that Huss is correct. The D-Lux 8 has been upgraded from the original shared Panasonic version. Yes, this includes the sensor. The images the D-Lux 8 produces are excellent for most use cases. For sure sharing digitally, and even printing to a larger size than most of us do most often. I have posted many D-Lux images here on FM. You would likely find it impossible to recognize any difference from the M11 images I have posted.
You will never get this kind of shooting experience, nor image quality using any current smart phone.
The zoom lens is very good for a zoom. I believe that Leica has done similar computational optimizations with the lens as the have with the Q. They even crop the resolution and FL bit doing this like the Q(x). The lens was designed for use on this one sensor by Leica, with all the advantages that that implies. Yes, it is manufactured by Panasonic. Did you know that Panasonic's Yamagata lens manufacturing facility is possibly the most advanced small aspherical lens manufacturing facilities in the World? They are capable of making ASPH lenses with multiple times less tolerances than other facilities. They make these type of lenses for many of the big "prestige" companies.
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/2764178778/a-focus-on-aspherics-panasonic-lens-factory-tour
Although it has Panasonic roots in its lineage, Panasonic has never made a version like the current D-Lux 8. No other manufacturer has either.
Huss fully understands this, and is 100% correct in his statement. I shoot it regularly alongside my M11, and current collection of latest generation of Leica M lenses. The D-Lux 8 is much closer in experience to the Q family of cameras than it is to the M. I would buy the new Q3 43 if I didn't already own the D-Lux 8. But for my use case, and in most circumstances (there are exceptions) it is as good as a Q(x) . Form Factor is often preferable to the Q(x) or M cameras.
No I am not trolling, and not being sarcastic. Neither is Huss. Try one before judging so harshly.
You are mistaken about something you wrote about the improved quality of the D-Lux 8. The D-Lux 8 has the same sensor and lens as the D-Lux 7 and the Panasonic LX100II. And the D7 and Panasonic are essentially the same camera, except that the D7 has a Red Dot and costs twice as much.
You need to read more carefully. My statement was that the D-Lux 8 has a different sensor than the original version shared with Panasonic, not the D-Lux 7. It is a completely different sensor than the original. You might want to research that.
At the same time it is also true that the D-Lux 8 has been given a higher Dynamic Range Score than the D-Lux 7, now has unlimited video recording, produces 12 bit RAW DNG files, and other things. Some of these may be the resalt of sensor optimizations so that the two sensors are not perfectly identical. It is fuzzy at this point which is why I made the claim referencing only the original sensor.
So my post is absolutely correct, it is yours that need corrcting.
Sometimes I have to doubt your motive as why you are so vehemently defending the D-Lux8.
I guess self-esteem doesn’t allow you to admit buyers remorse.
Anyway I have quit arguing with you about this camera a couple of months, and now someone else picked up the torch 🤪
Yeah D-Lux8 is the best ever camera that has existed on this planet in human beings history.
There you go, you win 😛
Not the point, I was only posting to correct someone who misstated what I had said.
I also don't think that the D-Lux 8 is the best camera ever. It makes plenty of compromises. I just think that it is often misunderstood and people don't realize how much has actually changed in the newest version to bring it in line with the rest of Leicas line. It is just an inexpensive, fun, convenience, camera after all.
Sorry you feel like you lost something, I try to discuss honestly and politely with a positive tilt. Your "best ever" pouting rant is extremely juvenile. That is a very bad look in my opinion. In actuality, neither of us has anything to actually win or lose in this discussion.
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