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Re: Official Announcement: Leica Q3 43 Digital Camera Released!




tzhang4284 wrote:

1bwana1 wrote:
Raptor_Fan76 wrote:

Was this a comment intended to troll, or do you genuinely believe what you wrote? I’m terrible at recognizing sarcasm, so have to ask.


tzhang4284 wrote:
taking your statement to its logical conclusion, why stop at the D-Lux 8? Just go with an iPhone 16 Pro - you get an even wider focal range and more megapixels with a free phone and computer thrown in.


My guess is that neither one of you has spent time shooting the D-Lux 8. I have, and Huss is correct. The D-Lux 8 is a full fledged Leica camera now. It offers the same owner, and shooting experience that all the current Leica cameras do. Same materials, same buttons, same communication protocols, same integration with FOTOS, same workflow, same menus, same DNG files (now 12 bit) . Everything. Hold one in your hand. Shoot one. You will see that Huss is correct. The D-Lux 8 has been upgraded from the original shared Panasonic version. Yes, this includes the sensor. The images the D-Lux 8 produces are excellent for most use cases. For sure sharing digitally, and even printing to a larger size than most of us do most often. I have posted many D-Lux images here on FM. You would likely find it impossible to recognize any difference from the M11 images I have posted.

You will never get this kind of shooting experience, nor image quality using any current smart phone.

The zoom lens is very good for a zoom. I believe that Leica has done similar computational optimizations with the lens as the have with the Q. They even crop the resolution and FL bit doing this like the Q(x). The lens was designed for use on this one sensor by Leica, with all the advantages that that implies. Yes, it is manufactured by Panasonic. Did you know that Panasonic's Yamagata lens manufacturing facility is possibly the most advanced small aspherical lens manufacturing facilities in the World? They are capable of making ASPH lenses with multiple times less tolerances than other facilities. They make these type of lenses for many of the big "prestige" companies.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/2764178778/a-focus-on-aspherics-panasonic-lens-factory-tour

Although it has Panasonic roots in its lineage, Panasonic has never made a version like the current D-Lux 8. No other manufacturer has either.

Huss fully understands this, and is 100% correct in his statement. I shoot it regularly alongside my M11, and current collection of latest generation of Leica M lenses. The D-Lux 8 is much closer in experience to the Q family of cameras than it is to the M. I would buy the new Q3 43 if I didn't already own the D-Lux 8. But for my use case, and in most circumstances (there are exceptions) it is as good as a Q(x) . Form Factor is often preferable to the Q(x) or M cameras.

No I am not trolling, and not being sarcastic. Neither is Huss. Try one before judging so harshly.




I don’t see the point in making the good enough argument with the d lux 8 on a thread about the leica q3 43 which is literally about best in class image quality in a reasonable size. My point is if you want to go deep on good enough, there is a whole logical extent where the d lux 8 looks really foolish as the point of comparison.

As for shooting experience im sure you enjoy the d lux 8 but if gear isn’t the main point over taking photos, then the iPhone is certainly good enough but again pointless comparison when it’s about the q3.


Actually I take photos almost every day. I never use my phone for that. I hate the phone photography experience. Everyone has their own preferences.

Every camera is a compromise.





Sep 27, 2024 at 09:04 PM





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