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molson wrote:
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Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers? Do we owe the all mighty Canon anything that prevents us from daring to expect them to listen to our modest needs?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds with fm5.0. The progress is larger than what many brands deliver btwn generations of cameras. And if rumors are true fm6.0 is about to be released. But this one may be more about sports, we will see. The point being they are still trying to maximize value for photographers at zero cost.

Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Sure, just like Toyota released with the Yaris GR a 35,000 US$ rally car (now gen 2 with an automatic gear box btw) that is probably one of 3 most fun cars to drive on the market under the 100,000 US$ mark, Canon may decide at some point to consider birding important. But what are the odds? The Toyota former CEO went public daring to say “petrol cars are fun, I love driving”. Have we seen a Canon CEO in the mud shooting birds? What are the reasons to believe that things may change for the better?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:44 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers? Do we owe the all mighty Canon anything that prevents us from daring to expect them to listen to our modest needs?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds with fm5.0. The progress is larger than what many brands deliver btwn generations of cameras. And if rumors are true fm6.0 is about to be released. But this one may be more about sports, we will see. The point being they are still trying to maximize value for photographers at zero cost.

Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Sure, just like Toyota released with the Yaris GR a 35,000 US$ car that is probably one of 3 most fun cars to drive on the market under the 100,000 US$ mark, Canon may decide at some point to consider birding important. But what are the odds? The Toyota former CEO went public daring to say “petrol cars are fun, I love driving”. Have we seen a Canon CEO in the mud shooting birds? What are the reasons to believe that things may change for the better?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:42 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers? Do we owe the all mighty Canon anything that prevents us from daring to expect them to listen to our modest needs?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds with fm5.0. The progress is larger than what many brands deliver btwn generations of cameras. And if rumors are true fm6.0 is about to be released. But this one may be more about sports, we will see. The point being they are still trying to maximize value for photographers at zero cost.

Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Sure, just like Toyota released with the Yaris GR a 35,000 US$ car that is probably one of 3 most fun cars to drive on the market under the 100,000 US$ mark, Canon may decide at some point to consider birding important. But what are the odds? The Toyota former CEO has gone public daring to say “petrol cars are fun, I love driving”. Have we seen a Canon CEO in the mud shooting birds? What are the reasons to believe that things may change for the better?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:38 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers? Do we owe the all mighty Canon anything that prevents us from daring to expect them to listen to our modest needs?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds with fm5.0. The progress is larger than what many brands deliver btwn generations of cameras. And if rumors are true fm6.0 is about to be released. But this one may be more about sports, we will see. The point being they are still trying to maximize value for photographers at zero cost.

Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Sure, just like Toyota released with the Yaris GR a 35,000 US$ car that is probably one of 3 most fun cars to drive on the market under the 100,000 US$ mark, Canon may decide at some point to consider birding important. But what are the odds? The Toyota former CEO has gone public daring to say “petrol cars are fun, I love driving”. Have we seen a Canon CEO in the mud shooting birds?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:37 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers? Do we owe the all mighty Canon anything that prevents us from daring to expect them to listen to our modest needs?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds with fm5.0. The progress is larger than what many brands deliver btwn generations of cameras. And if rumors are true fm6.0 is about to be released. But this one may be more about sports, we will see. The point being they are still trying to maximize value for photographers at zero cost.

Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Sure, just like Toyota released with the Yaris GR a 35,000 US$ car that is probably one of 3 most fun cars to drive on the market under the 100,000 US$ mark, Canon may decide at some point to consider birding important. But what are the odds?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:34 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers? Do we owe the all mighty Canon anything that prevents us from daring to expect them to listen to our modest needs?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds with fm5.0. The progress is larger than what many brands deliver btwn generations of cameras. And if rumors are true fm6.0 is about to be released. But this one may be more about sports, we will see. The point being they are still trying to maximize value for photographers at zero cost.

Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:28 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers? Do we owe the all mighty Canon anything that prevents us from daring to expect them to listen to our modest needs?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds with fm5.0. The progress is larger than what many brands deliver btwn generations of cameras.

Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:23 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers? Do we owe the all mighty Canon anything that prevents us from dating to expect them to listen to our modest needs?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds with fm5.0. The progress is larger than what many brands deliver btwn generations of cameras.

Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:22 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds with fm5.0. The progress is larger than what many brands deliver btwn generations of cameras.

Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:20 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers?

Back in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds. Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:15 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers?

Ack in early 2022 Dpreview ranked the Z9 with fm 1.0 as better focusing overall than R3 and a1. At that time its bird AF was not great. Since then Nikon has focused most of their improvements on bird AF to the extend that Steve Perry now ranks it as the best camera for birds. Has the profit focused Canon shown a similar urge to support the needs of birders? Sure they had less progress to make in this area but aren’t the trends very obvious?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:14 PM
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molson wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:

Canon is not very progressive and forward thinking, and if you have a need or desire for being inspired by new innovative and cutting edge wildlife cameras and lenses, Canon just isn't providing that. Either that or I am missing it.



What so many people fail to comprehend is that Canon is a company that is in business to return a profit for their shareholders. Catering to a handful of bored rich people on some internet forum is hardly a sound business practice.


And why exactly should we care when the much smaller Nikon was able to release in less than 2 years a full line up of super télés fine tuned for birders? Is Canon working for themselves or for us the photographers?

Cheers,
Bernard



Jul 20, 2024 at 03:08 PM





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