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So this is your way of expressing your opinion, and acknowledging that not everyone may agree 100%? This was part of your reply to Philip. You basically said he's a fool. Or at least a person who is thinking like a fool.

Zooms have one advantage…they can be used at various focal lengths without changes lenses…that’s it. Comparing the weight of a zoom with a set of primes is just a fools game.

Now if you said that you believed that weight in your hands or handing from the camera strap is more important to you (or even most people). But you left no wiggle room, you are presenting your opinion as fact. Now if you expressed your opinion as an opinion.....I personally wouldn't fault you for having an opinion that is different than mine or anyone else's. But you aren't expressing it as an opinion. I might say, that I could see why you have your opinion, based on your shooting style. Then I might express why my opinion might be different.

chez wrote:
tsdevine wrote:

Chez you are always right, you've thought of every angle, surely there could be absolutely no difference in thinking. The funny part is that you didn't p*ss in my cornflakes because I was genuinely saying what I found funny.

I mean it's folly to say that for my shooting style I rarely have the camera hanging off me, it's in my backpack. And of course it's not valid that I often carry A LOT of primes (because that's just wrong.) And it's not valid that the weight in the pack truly does matter more than the weight hanging off my shoulder, since I'm not doing that. I mean maybe I have a different way of doing things, but it's wrong, therefore your palace of rightness is still intact.

So feel good about being right, absolutely, since no one could possibly say otherwise.

We're all good. I'm glad we cleared that up.

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tsdevine wrote:

I find it funny when people constantly think that everyone must think alike, and even funnier when someone thinks that everyone must think like they do.

We can all say what we find is funny right?


Sorry I p*ssed into your cornflakes…but what I posted is very true. Trying to justify the weight of a zoom by tallying up the weights of a set of primes is just totally wrong thinking and just a measure of justifying the weight of a zoom. I get it…you like this lens, but don’t go telling me that the weight of the zoom is less than the equivalent primes…because that math is flawed in many ways.



So you are saying your view of how you carry your gear is valid here to discuss...but my view is not? Yes, I do carry my camera in my hands as I travel so I am relaying my views on how I go out and shoot. You have a different approach than mine, and I can understand that as I do the same when out shooting landscapes...but why do you think your point of view is the only one that can be expressed. I know many people walk the streets or shoot events with their camera in hand...not packed away in their backpack. The weight of the zoom would be fully absorbed onto the wrist if one is carrying their camera in hand. Surely you can see people might have different approaches to their photography...than you.





Jul 16, 2024 at 09:07 PM
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So this is your way of expressing your opinion, and acknowledging that not everyone may agree 100%? This was part of your reply to Philip.

Zooms have one advantage…they can be used at various focal lengths without changes lenses…that’s it. Comparing the weight of a zoom with a set of primes is just a fools game.

Now if you said that you believed that weight in your hands or handing from the camera strap is more important to you (or even most people). But you left no wiggle room, you are presenting your opinion as fact. Now if you expressed your opinion as an opinion.....I personally wouldn't fault you for having an opinion that is different than mine or anyone else's. But you aren't expressing it as an opinion. I might say, that I could see why you have your opinion, based on your shooting style. Then I might express why my opinion might be different.

chez wrote:
tsdevine wrote:

Chez you are always right, you've thought of every angle, surely there could be absolutely no difference in thinking. The funny part is that you didn't p*ss in my cornflakes because I was genuinely saying what I found funny.

I mean it's folly to say that for my shooting style I rarely have the camera hanging off me, it's in my backpack. And of course it's not valid that I often carry A LOT of primes (because that's just wrong.) And it's not valid that the weight in the pack truly does matter more than the weight hanging off my shoulder, since I'm not doing that. I mean maybe I have a different way of doing things, but it's wrong, therefore your palace of rightness is still intact.

So feel good about being right, absolutely, since no one could possibly say otherwise.

We're all good. I'm glad we cleared that up.

chez wrote:


tsdevine wrote:

I find it funny when people constantly think that everyone must think alike, and even funnier when someone thinks that everyone must think like they do.

We can all say what we find is funny right?


Sorry I p*ssed into your cornflakes…but what I posted is very true. Trying to justify the weight of a zoom by tallying up the weights of a set of primes is just totally wrong thinking and just a measure of justifying the weight of a zoom. I get it…you like this lens, but don’t go telling me that the weight of the zoom is less than the equivalent primes…because that math is flawed in many ways.



So you are saying your view of how you carry your gear is valid here to discuss...but my view is not? Yes, I do carry my camera in my hands as I travel so I am relaying my views on how I go out and shoot. You have a different approach than mine, and I can understand that as I do the same when out shooting landscapes...but why do you think your point of view is the only one that can be expressed. I know many people walk the streets or shoot events with their camera in hand...not packed away in their backpack. The weight of the zoom would be fully absorbed onto the wrist if one is carrying their camera in hand. Surely you can see people might have different approaches to their photography...than you.





Jul 16, 2024 at 09:00 PM





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