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 Re: Official Z6 III Thread - | |
Corrected the typo on my original message. z6ii debuted at $2k/24 MPx s d Z7ii at $3k/45Mpx. Add $500 to both numbers and you have Z6iii and Z8. Size is more of a decision factor on the low end. The high Mpx cams are more likely to run large heavy lenses which make the bigger grip and larger size and advantage. You can find plenty of gripes here that the Z7 and Z7ii were too small. I guess there are lots of guys with large hands on this forum... Ahem.
aman74 wrote:
GroovyGeek wrote:
aman74 wrote:
GroovyGeek wrote:
I am willing to wager a few hundred bucks that if we evere get a 7iii it will be a lot more than $500 more expensive than a 6iii. As Hogan has posted Nikon tends to price in increments of 1.4, so 2500, 3500, 4900 - which roughly are the 6, 8 and 9 price points. They need a $1500-$1700 body more than they need a 7iii so my guess it we will see 5ii sooner rather than later. The 7 bodies felt like a crutch to keep the faithful in the fold with a higher Mpx body that required minimal engineering over a 6. I would not be surprised if we never see a 7iii.
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Driften wrote:
This camera might bring me back to Nikon. I had high hopes of owning a Z8 until I found out how heavy it was on announcement. It's too heavy for my needs. The Z7II didn't have the AF abilities I needed so sold it, but have missed owning it. I would much rather own a Z6II over a Canon R6II that I used to own as well. I really want to pick one up....
What system are you on now? One thing lost in these discussions and a cameras spot in the marketplace is that this is the newest camera out…so when everyone else has something out in this price segment that’s new to their lineup, we can more easily compare.
It was said that this sensor will be exclusive to Nikon and Sony, so this could give Nikon and advantage over Canon and Panny in that regard for this class of body.
If you’re already in Nikon or definitely wanting a Nikon in this price and size range due to glass or whatever other reason leans you towards them I think this is a great release. Not much to complain about. Of course there’s always something, but overall it seems pretty great.
I’m looking to get back into photography and video and right now use a Sigma DP2M, great for what it does well, but what it does well is very limited, so I’m definitely interested in this release.
For me personally I just desire more MP’s. I think what they decide to do with a Z7III will be very interesting. I’m not even positive there would be one. If it’s 500 dollars more as someone said, isn’t that a little too close to the Z8?
I’d be a buyer at 500 more and more MP’s…but not at all convinced that will happen. This semi-stacked sensor allowed them to be very competitive in video, but pretty much eliminated them from offering a one-stop option to satisfy everyone that lies between this and the Z8.
So maybe there is a Z7 with higher MP’s and worse video, so their offerings become even more Sony-like in that that would be how the A7RV is positioned.
This makes the ZF a lot less compelling to many as well, as I figured it would. That it added this much more over the ZF I think surprised a lot, as proved by early predictions of this just being a ZF in a Z6III body.
I looked pretty hard at the ZF, but not because of the retro styling. It is definitely a looker, and I’d still consider it because it’s a bit cheaper, but for relatively little more this release does a lot more for a certain user. If the ZF wasn’t so seemingly unnecessarily large I might own one by now.
The Sony A7C and RC are very compelling for size, but I feel unnecessarily crippled in the EVF and with a lack of an electronic shutter. Very frustrating as someone who values a small size and high MP’s and doesn’t have the best eyes.
Everyone is so close to having the perfect camera available. 
I should just be thankful basically the only compromise for me is size at this point.
I’m assuming the Z6III has the cool manual focus aid option the ZF does? As someone with not the greatest eyes for focusing, but who isn’t satisfied by modern lenses that seems like a great option to have. I imagine other manufacturers will be adding something similar. I’m surprised with the popularity of adapted lenses since the inception of MILC’s, that it took someone so long to offer something like Nikon did with the ZF.
I won’t be surprised either, but that’s a big hole in the lineup. Many do not want the cost as size of the Z8. 24 MP’s is not enough for a lot of users, whether that is in reality or their perception is another matter.
Don't know if I agree. In F-land we had the D750 at 24 MPx and $2300 initial price, and the D850 at $3300 and 45 Mpx, with nothing in between.
The Z6ii was $2k at 24 MPx and $2000 Z7ii at 45 Mpx and $3000, with nothing in between. Move the price scale up $500 and you have Z6iii and Z8. From a pricingn standpoint they need something below the Z6iii not between it and the Z8. Maybe that is the Zf and they drop the price to $1700 or thereabouts to address the casual user who may be attracted to the Zf form factor as a fashion statement
“The Z6ii was $2k at 24 MPx and $2000 Z7ii at 45 Mpx and $3000, with nothing in between”
I don’t quite follow, 2K listed twice.
D750 and 850 was a long time ago so not a fair comparison.
It’s not just the price here though, it’s the size of the Z8. With Sony you can get more MP’s without having to get a huge body in multiple options. Canon has an option as well.
I’m not making a hard argument or anything, just how I see it. I’m sure their bean counters will figure out what they think is best for them.
I honestly don’t think it’s a small piece of market share that wants more than 24 mp’s, but doesn’t want a Z8 sized body.
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