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Re: Worth it to Upgrade from Fujifilm X to GFX Series for Landscapes?


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For example, in a landscape shot, you have some river rocks in the foreground and some mountains on the background. On apsc, if we shot the scene at f11, everything will be more or less in focus, however, on miniMF, we need to use f22 to achieve the same, I am uncomfortable shooting at f22 for any camera, worrying about diffraction, high ISO etc, so I either have to find a tripod and do focus stacking or just set f13, focus on mountains and accept foreground river rocks will be a bit out of focus.


Although that is mathematically true, all you have to do is just compose a shot where your desired subject is within the near limit of acceptable sharpness.

If you use a 12mm focal length on an APS-C body, then at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.45m.

If you are using a 24mm focal length on a GFX body, at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, then the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.71m.

That's a rather small difference in the real world. If, for some reason, you need that nearest 0.71m in focus, and you didn't want to stop down beyond f11, then perhaps focus bracketing would be a good solution. But rarely is that needed outside of specific use cases.



Apr 10, 2024 at 01:06 PM
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Re: Worth it to Upgrade from Fujifilm X to GFX Series for Landscapes?


architekt wrote:


For example, in a landscape shot, you have some river rocks in the foreground and some mountains on the background. On apsc, if we shot the scene at f11, everything will be more or less in focus, however, on miniMF, we need to use f22 to achieve the same, I am uncomfortable shooting at f22 for any camera, worrying about diffraction, high ISO etc, so I either have to find a tripod and do focus stacking or just set f13, focus on mountains and accept foreground river rocks will be a bit out of focus.


Although that is mathematically true, all you have to do is just compose a shot where your desired subject is within the near limit of acceptable sharpness.

If you use a 12mm focal length on an APS-C body, then at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.45m.

If you are using a 24mm focal length on a GFX body, at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, then the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.71m.

That's a rather small difference in the real world. If, for some reason, you need that nearest 0.71m in focus, and you didn't want to stop down beyond f11, then perhaps focus bracketing would be a good solution. But rarely is that needed for the typical photographer.



Apr 10, 2024 at 01:06 PM
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Re: Worth it to Upgrade from Fujifilm X to GFX Series for Landscapes?


architekt wrote:


For example, in a landscape shot, you have some river rocks in the foreground and some mountains on the background. On apsc, if we shot the scene at f11, everything will be more or less in focus, however, on miniMF, we need to use f22 to achieve the same, I am uncomfortable shooting at f22 for any camera, worrying about diffraction, high ISO etc, so I either have to find a tripod and do focus stacking or just set f13, focus on mountains and accept foreground river rocks will be a bit out of focus.


Although that is mathematically true, all you have to do is just compose a shot where your desired subject is within the near limit of acceptable sharpness.

If you use a 12mm focal length on an APS-C body, then at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.45m.

If you are using a 24mm focal length on a GFX body, at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, then the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.71m.

That's a rather small difference in the real world. If, for some reason, you need that nearest 0.71m in focus, and you didn't want to stop down beyond f11, then perhaps focus bracketing would be a good solution. But rarely is that needed for the typical photographer.



Apr 10, 2024 at 01:04 PM
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Re: Worth it to Upgrade from Fujifilm X to GFX Series for Landscapes?


architekt wrote:


For example, in a landscape shot, you have some river rocks in the foreground and some mountains on the background. On apsc, if we shot the scene at f11, everything will be more or less in focus, however, on miniMF, we need to use f22 to achieve the same, I am uncomfortable shooting at f22 for any camera, worrying about diffraction, high ISO etc, so I either have to find a tripod and do focus stacking or just set f13, focus on mountains and accept foreground river rocks will be a bit out of focus.


Although that is mathematically true, all you have to do is just compose a shot where your desired subject is within the near limit of acceptable sharpness.

If you use a 12mm focal length on an APS-C body, then at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.45m.

If you are using a 24mm focal length on a GFX body, at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, then the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.71m.

That's a rather small difference, less than 0.3 meters from the focal plane with a subject distance of 1.5m. If, for some reason, you need that nearest 0.71m in focus, and you didn't want to stop down beyond f11, then perhaps focus bracketing would be a good solution. But rarely is that needed for the typical photographer.



Apr 10, 2024 at 01:02 PM
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Re: Worth it to Upgrade from Fujifilm X to GFX Series for Landscapes?


architekt wrote:


For example, in a landscape shot, you have some river rocks in the foreground and some mountains on the background. On apsc, if we shot the scene at f11, everything will be more or less in focus, however, on miniMF, we need to use f22 to achieve the same, I am uncomfortable shooting at f22 for any camera, worrying about diffraction, high ISO etc, so I either have to find a tripod and do focus stacking or just set f13, focus on mountains and accept foreground river rocks will be a bit out of focus.


Although that is mathematically true, all you have to do is just compose a shot where your desired subject is within the near limit of acceptable sharpness.

If you use a 12mm focal length on an APS-C body, then at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.45m.

If you are using a 24mm focal length on a GFX body, at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, then the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.71m.

That's a rather small difference, less than 0.3 meters from the focal plane with a subject distance of 1.5m. If, for some reason, you need that nearest 0.71m in focus, and you didn't want to stop down beyond f11, then perhaps focus bracketing would be a good solution. But rarely is that needed for the typical photographer.



Apr 10, 2024 at 01:01 PM
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Re: Worth it to Upgrade from Fujifilm X to GFX Series for Landscapes?


architekt wrote:


For example, in a landscape shot, you have some river rocks in the foreground and some mountains on the background. On apsc, if we shot the scene at f11, everything will be more or less in focus, however, on miniMF, we need to use f22 to achieve the same, I am uncomfortable shooting at f22 for any camera, worrying about diffraction, high ISO etc, so I either have to find a tripod and do focus stacking or just set f13, focus on mountains and accept foreground river rocks will be a bit out of focus.


Although that is mathematically true, all you have to do is just compose a shot where your desired subject is within the near limit of acceptable sharpness.

If you use a 12mm focal length on an APS-C body, then at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.45m.

If you are using a 24mm focal length on a GFX body, at f11, with a subject distance of 1.5m, then the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.71m.

That's a rather small difference, less than 0.3 meters from the focal plane with a subject distance of 1.5m. If, for some reason, you need that nearest 0.71m in focus, and you didn't want to stop down beyond f11, then perhaps focus bracketing would be a good solution. But rarely is that needed for the typical photographer.



Apr 10, 2024 at 01:01 PM
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Re: Worth it to Upgrade from Fujifilm X to GFX Series for Landscapes?


architekt wrote:


For example, in a landscape shot, you have some river rocks in the foreground and some mountains on the background. On apsc, if we shot the scene at f11, everything will be more or less in focus, however, on miniMF, we need to use f22 to achieve the same, I am uncomfortable shooting at f22 for any camera, worrying about diffraction, high ISO etc, so I either have to find a tripod and do focus stacking or just set f13, focus on mountains and accept foreground river rocks will be a bit out of focus.


Although that is mathematically true, all you have to do is just compose a shot where your desired subject is within the near limit of acceptable sharpness.

If you use a 12mm focal length on an APS-C body, then at f11, a subject distance of 1.5m, the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.45m.

If you are using a 24mm focal length on a GFX body, at f11, with a subject distance of 1.5m, then the near limit of acceptable sharpness is 0.71m.

That's a rather small difference. So yes, in a lab test, you would have to stop down to f22 on a GFX lens to achieve the exact same near limit of acceptable sharpness as an APS-C lens, but rarely do you actually have to stop down to f22 in the real world.



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