ilkka_nissila wrote: MatthewK wrote:
Overall bokeh rendering is another thing, and each leans is going to be different, even those at the same aperture and focal length. Seeing as how the 600PF and 180-600 are nearly similar, and the 600 f4 is smoother, sort of dispels the notion that the PF element is detracting from the rendering.
Zooms typically have compromised bokeh and so an expensive prime lens such as the 600 PF having comparable bokeh as a zoom is hardly a merit. A telephoto prime is supposed to melt the viewer's heart with the beauty of the out-of-focus areas
I disagree, Steve. Bokeh is either good or bad, regardless of price point.
ilkka_nissila wrote:
Images from the PF lenses do not do that for me, quite the opposite.
You're entitled to your opinion.
ilkka_nissila wrote:
If one mainly takes photos of birds at fairly short distances and high magnifications, the backgrounds tend to be so out-of-focus that bokeh issues do not distract from the overall impact of the photos. However, at longer distances the out-of-focus rendering of PF lenses (my experience is with 300 and 500 PF) can cause photos to be unpleasant to look at.
Well there we go then. I may be different than others, but I'm not trying to shoot small birds from 50 yards away and think I'm going to achieve good composition and heart-melting amazing bokeh. Long distance shooting just isn't a metric of mine, too distant subjects present so many issues and obstacles to making what *I* consider a great looking photo, that it's just not worth my time, unless I'm intentionally trying for a wide environmental portrait. Again, different strokes for different horses, but if a bird is outside of ~30ft, I'm either looking to get closer/subject to come closer, or I'm passing on the shot. In this scenario and for my shooting criteria, bokeh is really far down the list of things I consider, and that's why the 600PF (and 500PF before it) work well for me.
ilkka_nissila wrote: MatthewK wrote:
Overall bokeh rendering is another thing, and each leans is going to be different, even those at the same aperture and focal length. Seeing as how the 600PF and 180-600 are nearly similar, and the 600 f4 is smoother, sort of dispels the notion that the PF element is detracting from the rendering.
Zooms typically have compromised bokeh and so an expensive prime lens such as the 600 PF having comparable bokeh as a zoom is hardly a merit. A telephoto prime is supposed to melt the viewer's heart with the beauty of the out-of-focus areas
I disagree, Steve. Bokeh is either good or bad, regardless of price point.
ilkka_nissila wrote:
Images from the PF lenses do not do that for me, quite the opposite.
