chiron wrote: GMPhotography wrote:
Well as an old A7R guy that got it day one , I do laugh at the whining as we really had almost nothing when it came to lenses on that release to mirrorless. I ignore these comments F2 or F2.8 really does not matter much in zooms . Bokeh always sucked with zooms at least for the most part and digital has expanded our ISO levels so high now it is comical we were pretty much ISO 400 limited in color at least. Us old dogs have struggled for years with limitations and effective speed in our systems. I always ran into speed issues and such. Today is a fresh breath of air. Im glad I lived in those times as I do now. Photography for me has been a lifetime and it's nice to see the industry grow and watch it get to these levels. I ignore all that crap as it does not enrich our lives at all
Yes, once upon a time when you wanted to shoot in dim light, you might push Tri-X to 800 and get a fast 50mm 1.4 or even 1.2 lens and shoot at 1/30th second. But that was pretty much it. Today you can shoot at 3200 or 6400 while hand-holding a stabilized camera at 1/5th second and get a very fine quality image.
Indeed but you can't shoot an event at 1/5th of a second. If I'm shooting an event and the people are moving a fair bit I want to keep shutter speed as high as I can with 1/125 or even 1/250 being ideal. I actually ceiling my iso at 12800 as I don't mind a bit of 'grain' in an image and never use flash. In many ways this new lens would be ideal being small, light and high IQ but I could just see myself reaching for the even slightly faster primes.
chiron wrote: GMPhotography wrote:
Well as an old A7R guy that got it day one , I do laugh at the whining as we really had almost nothing when it came to lenses on that release to mirrorless. I ignore these comments F2 or F2.8 really does not matter much in zooms . Bokeh always sucked with zooms at least for the most part and digital has expanded our ISO levels so high now it is comical we were pretty much ISO 400 limited in color at least. Us old dogs have struggled for years with limitations and effective speed in our systems. I always ran into speed issues and such. Today is a fresh breath of air. Im glad I lived in those times as I do now. Photography for me has been a lifetime and it's nice to see the industry grow and watch it get to these levels. I ignore all that crap as it does not enrich our lives at all
Yes, once upon a time when you wanted to shoot in dim light, you might push Tri-X to 800 and get a fast 50mm 1.4 or even 1.2 lens and shoot at 1/30th second. But that was pretty much it. Today you can shoot at 3200 or 6400 while hand-holding a stabilized camera at 1/5th second and get a very fine quality image.
Indeed but you can't shoot an event at 1/5th of a second. If I'm shooting an event and the people are moving a fair bit I want to keep shutter speed as high as I can with 1/125 or even 1/250 being ideal. I actually ceiling my iso at 12800 as I don't mind a bit of 'grain' in an image and never use flash. In many ways this new lens would be ideal being small, light and high IQ but I could just see myself reaching for the even slightly faster primes.
Anyway you never know
chiron wrote: GMPhotography wrote:
Well as an old A7R guy that got it day one , I do laugh at the whining as we really had almost nothing when it came to lenses on that release to mirrorless. I ignore these comments F2 or F2.8 really does not matter much in zooms . Bokeh always sucked with zooms at least for the most part and digital has expanded our ISO levels so high now it is comical we were pretty much ISO 400 limited in color at least. Us old dogs have struggled for years with limitations and effective speed in our systems. I always ran into speed issues and such. Today is a fresh breath of air. Im glad I lived in those times as I do now. Photography for me has been a lifetime and it's nice to see the industry grow and watch it get to these levels. I ignore all that crap as it does not enrich our lives at all
Yes, once upon a time when you wanted to shoot in dim light, you might push Tri-X to 800 and get a fast 50mm 1.4 or even 1.2 lens and shoot at 1/30th second. But that was pretty much it. Today you can shoot at 3200 or 6400 while hand-holding a stabilized camera at 1/5th second and get a very fine quality image.
Indeed but you can't shoot an event at 1/5th of a second. If I'm shooting an event and the people are moving a fair bit I want to keep shutter speed as high as I can with 1/125 or even 1/250 being ideal. I actually ceiling my iso at 12800 as I don't mind a bit of 'grain' in an image and never use flash. In many ways this new lens would be ideal being small, light and high IQ but I could just see myself reaching for the even slightly faster primes
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