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Re: Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


BastianK wrote:
garyvot wrote:
Hi Bastian. Is there any way to confirm through your contacts that the manual focus RF-mount version of this lens will actually be chipped? I think we are all assuming that this is so, but it would be nice to have confirmation.

I received an answer: no electronics on the RF version due to legal reasons.


No electronics on the RF version mean that it will not autofocus or provide fstop in the exif data - on Canon. A serious disadvantage.

So for canon users, the advantage of the Laowa 10/2.8 vs [Laowa 9/5.6 or 7Artisans 9/5.6 or Brightin Star 9/5.6 ] will be f2.8 (vs f5.6).

Against the disadvantages vs the alternatives of:

1) Brighten Star has a nd back option that is very advantageous. It works on RF without adapter. And it's about $450 and sharp. But it's really 9.5mm not 9mm. Likely the best choice if you can live with f5.6. And it's reasonably sharp. It also does not have chip for exif. So if you can live with f5.6 this is a good option. [ As per below Laowa 10 2.8 has a filter screw on front, so the nd back screwin may be even on this count - but 9.5mm vs 10, no exif, no auto focus, and higher price is correct. So this does not change the balance much for canon users - but a bit]

2) 7Artisans works on RF and is $500. Its seems to be the same design as Brighton Star and shares similar design. (Same factory, dfifferent branding ?) And it does not have the screw in back nd filter ability. Thus for landscape the Brighton Star is a better option.

3) Laowa 9 /5.6 is not offered on RF or EF. It is available on Leica M Mount and adaptable. But it may not have desirable colour cast. I have read somewhere that the reason Laowa did not make it available in RF or EF mount is that it does not do as well on Canon R cameras - but I don't know this to be true. But this suggests it's not a good option for canon users.

Summary? for canon - Brighton Star f5.6 vs Laowa 10 f2.8 - ND enabling vs fstop and price. For landscape (usually at f8 or f11 or f16) the Brightin Star 9/f5.6 is a better choice.

- on Canon



Jan 20, 2024 at 10:06 AM
Scott Stoness
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Re: Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


BastianK wrote:
garyvot wrote:
Hi Bastian. Is there any way to confirm through your contacts that the manual focus RF-mount version of this lens will actually be chipped? I think we are all assuming that this is so, but it would be nice to have confirmation.

I received an answer: no electronics on the RF version due to legal reasons.


No electronics on the RF version mean that it will not autofocus or provide fstop in the exif data - on Canon. A serious disadvantage.

So for canon users, the advantage of the Laowa 10/2.8 vs [Laowa 9/5.6 or 7Artisans 9/5.6 or Brightin Star 9/5.6 ] will be f2.8 (vs f5.6).

Against the disadvantages vs the alternatives of:

1) Brighten Star has a nd back option that is very advantageous. It works on RF without adapter. And it's about $450 and sharp. But it's really 9.5mm not 9mm. Likely the best choice if you can live with f5.6. And it's reasonably sharp. It also does not have chip for exif. So if you can live with f5.6 this is a good option.

2) 7Artisans works on RF and is $500. Its seems to be the same design as Brighton Star and shares similar design. (Same factory, dfifferent branding ?) And it does not have the screw in back nd filter ability. Thus for landscape the Brighton Star is a better option.

3) Laowa 9 /5.6 is not offered on RF or EF. It is available on Leica M Mount and adaptable. But it may not have desirable colour cast. I have read somewhere that the reason Laowa did not make it available in RF or EF mount is that it does not do as well on Canon R cameras - but I don't know this to be true. But this suggests it's not a good option for canon users.

Summary? for canon - Brighton Star f5.6 vs Laowa 10 f2.8 - ND enabling vs fstop and price. For landscape (usually at f8 or f11 or f16) the Brightin Star 9/f5.6 is a better choice.

- on Canon



Jan 19, 2024 at 09:08 AM





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