Re: Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"
chez wrote: smpetty wrote: nhsonyshooter wrote:
Never thought I'd be the one kinda defending Sony on this one. Right now there are "new" and basically new A7cr's on the buy and sell board for 2400, 2600 dollars. Not sure what those 14 people are waiting for. I'm just curious why people are not scooping these up. The camera is far from perfect I'm the first to admit but for those prices I just don't see a better camera across brands. Yes I hate all flip screens, it sucks but I'll live with it till the day the A7crii is released. The EVF is OK. At least useable now. Would I like full mechanical to 8000, sure. Are there other nit picks, yup. But still with all that said I bought mine at full retail and still think it is great. I have been using a couple of RV's so basically I knew what I was getting and what I was missing. I call it a swiss army knife because surprisingly I actually have been using the extension grip when shooting wildlife with the 100-400 + 1.4x. It actually feels better in the hand then my RV. Didn't see that coming. The beauty is it goes on and comes off in like 4 seconds.The weight difference people under estimate. I know I did. When I opened the box and lifted it out the first thing that popped into my head was "crap, some replaced it with a fake". Totally caught me off guard. Quickly unscrewed the cap and hey there is a sensor and internals in there. The missing EVF on the top is also a huge advantage in packing things out. I like using Temba BYOB bags 9 & 10 mostly. I started using them to pack out in my hiking backpacks but ended up using them as everyday bags. Not fashionable but simple. I can fit a 70-200 Gii, 20-70, 35GM and the A7cr in a temba 10. Not to mention other stuff, table top tripod, RSS Clamp, filters, battery etc... I could never get all that in with an RV. Trust me I tried. At the end of the day Sony did what Sony does best. They held things back for version 2 and it sucks. But in the meantime the camera is still fantastic and the most versatile I have ever owned. I have been waiting too long for a FF sensor in an APSC body.. For all those on the fence. Rent one, see if it works for you. This camera is light years better than the original A7C. It might surprise you.
Happy Holidays to all.
For me, the difference in size and weight between my A7RV and the A7CR is marginal. For the extra weight and slight increase in size, I gain a much better EVF, a much better LCD screen, and a much better grip. I have big hands, and for my hands, the A7RV is more comfortable to carry. Stick them each in a bag with batteries and lenses, and I would defy anyone to guess which held the A7RV and which held the A7CR.
Where are you getting the A7r5 weight from. It is 723gm not 658gm.
Also, the weight difference that counts is not in the bag but hanging off your wrist.
My bad - I should have double checked these figures. The weight from this graphic is misleading as it supplies the weight for the A7RV without the battery and the A7CR weight with the battery. According to B&H, with batteries, the A7RV weighs 723g, the A7CR 515g for a 208 gram difference. 208 grams isn't much - the Sony 28/2 and the Sigma 45/2.8 (without the hood) both weigh about 200g.
The iPhone 15 weighs 221 g.
Again, stick them each in a bag with batteries and lenses, and I would defy anyone to guess which held the A7RV and which held the A7CR.
If I am carrying one lens and one body, then the weight hanging off my wrist is the most important.
If I am carrying additional lenses and/or bodies and/or accessories, then the total weight is what counts.
Re: Why are people not buying Sony's Swiss Army knife "A7cr"
chez wrote: smpetty wrote: nhsonyshooter wrote:
Never thought I'd be the one kinda defending Sony on this one. Right now there are "new" and basically new A7cr's on the buy and sell board for 2400, 2600 dollars. Not sure what those 14 people are waiting for. I'm just curious why people are not scooping these up. The camera is far from perfect I'm the first to admit but for those prices I just don't see a better camera across brands. Yes I hate all flip screens, it sucks but I'll live with it till the day the A7crii is released. The EVF is OK. At least useable now. Would I like full mechanical to 8000, sure. Are there other nit picks, yup. But still with all that said I bought mine at full retail and still think it is great. I have been using a couple of RV's so basically I knew what I was getting and what I was missing. I call it a swiss army knife because surprisingly I actually have been using the extension grip when shooting wildlife with the 100-400 + 1.4x. It actually feels better in the hand then my RV. Didn't see that coming. The beauty is it goes on and comes off in like 4 seconds.The weight difference people under estimate. I know I did. When I opened the box and lifted it out the first thing that popped into my head was "crap, some replaced it with a fake". Totally caught me off guard. Quickly unscrewed the cap and hey there is a sensor and internals in there. The missing EVF on the top is also a huge advantage in packing things out. I like using Temba BYOB bags 9 & 10 mostly. I started using them to pack out in my hiking backpacks but ended up using them as everyday bags. Not fashionable but simple. I can fit a 70-200 Gii, 20-70, 35GM and the A7cr in a temba 10. Not to mention other stuff, table top tripod, RSS Clamp, filters, battery etc... I could never get all that in with an RV. Trust me I tried. At the end of the day Sony did what Sony does best. They held things back for version 2 and it sucks. But in the meantime the camera is still fantastic and the most versatile I have ever owned. I have been waiting too long for a FF sensor in an APSC body.. For all those on the fence. Rent one, see if it works for you. This camera is light years better than the original A7C. It might surprise you.
Happy Holidays to all.
For me, the difference in size and weight between my A7RV and the A7CR is marginal. For the extra weight and slight increase in size, I gain a much better EVF, a much better LCD screen, and a much better grip. I have big hands, and for my hands, the A7RV is more comfortable to carry. Stick them each in a bag with batteries and lenses, and I would defy anyone to guess which held the A7RV and which held the A7CR.
Where are you getting the A7r5 weight from. It is 723gm not 658gm.
Also, the weight difference that counts is not in the bag but hanging off your wrist.
My bad - I should have double checked these figures. The weight from this graphic is misleading as it supplies the weight for the A7RV without the battery and the A7CR weight with the battery. According to B&H, with batteries, the A7RV weighs 723g, the A7CR 515g for a 208 gram difference. 208 grams isn't much - the Sony 28/2 and the Sigma 45/2.8 (without the hood) both weigh about 200g.
Again, stick them each in a bag with batteries and lenses, and I would defy anyone to guess which held the A7RV and which held the A7CR.
If I am carrying one lens and one body, then the weight hanging off my wrist is the most important. If 200g is a deal breaker, you might consider lifting weights. The iPhone 15 weighs 221 g.
If I am carrying additional lenses and/or bodies and/or accessories, then the total weight is what counts. Perhaps you use a porter? I carry my own gear.
Dec 15, 2023 at 06:01 PM
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