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Re: Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced


nmerc_photos wrote:
raminolta wrote:
CATProductions wrote:
raminolta wrote:
berimbolo wrote:
raminolta wrote:
wind30 wrote:
Dave Sanders wrote:
wind30 wrote:
… I am going to buy a z8 tmr…. Sony really has lost touch with what people want.


Why not the A1?


Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.


A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.



The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.


I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.

PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.



The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.


Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.

Not to stoke the fire, but do you really not see that Nikon's line up smokes Sony's?

Sony has

200-600
300 f2.8
400 f2.8 (no TC)
600 f4 (no TC)

Nikon has

180-600 (which is an actual 600mm, not the ~550mm of the Sony)
400 f2.8 w/ TC
400 f4.5
600 f4 w/ TC
600 f6.3
800 f6.3

your argument seems to be about the quality of the optics, but you literally can't compare optical quality on most of these - because Sony has no offerings in that range lol

Nikon is miles ahead of both Sony/Canon in their telephoto lineup, and that's objective fact with no room for interpretation.

Additionally, all of Sony's E Glass is adaptable to Nikon, but not the other way around. And that's not even taking F glass into consideration.

Back to on topic - these Sony releases are very exciting. as others mentioned the A9III will not be a camera for me, since it is targeted specifically for high end sports shooters. but the capabilities are nice, because inevitably those will filter down to "mid-grade" bodies in the near future.

and a 300 f2.8 at the weight of past 70-200s is certainly awesome. I've been waiting to see which manufacturer would bring out a modern 200 f2, and I think Sony may be on the right track


I believe the discussion was about optical quality not number of available lenses.

Stop this teenage language of 'smoke', 'miles ahead', etc.. I am glad for Nikon users if they have multiple tele lens options. I think there are plenty enough in the Sony FE mount too for those who can afford them. If there is any real advantage for people who are bragging about Nikon tele lenses over Sony, I wonder who among them really possess any of these expensive lenses? Canon on the other hand has interesting tele lenses that are affordable for most people. Canon might be well ahead of Sony and Nikon in this regard with their economic approach: severalvery affordable tele lenses. Besides, Canon has multiple different EF-RF adapters to use EF lenses on RF mount seamlessly. However, I don't want to continue discussing this, because the original claim was about performance, not the number nor the price.




Nov 10, 2023 at 07:09 PM
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Re: Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced


nmerc_photos wrote:
raminolta wrote:
CATProductions wrote:
raminolta wrote:
berimbolo wrote:
raminolta wrote:
wind30 wrote:
Dave Sanders wrote:
wind30 wrote:
… I am going to buy a z8 tmr…. Sony really has lost touch with what people want.


Why not the A1?


Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.


A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.



The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.


I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.

PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.



The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.


Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.

Not to stoke the fire, but do you really not see that Nikon's line up smokes Sony's?

Sony has

200-600
300 f2.8
400 f2.8 (no TC)
600 f4 (no TC)

Nikon has

180-600 (which is an actual 600mm, not the ~550mm of the Sony)
400 f2.8 w/ TC
400 f4.5
600 f4 w/ TC
600 f6.3
800 f6.3

your argument seems to be about the quality of the optics, but you literally can't compare optical quality on most of these - because Sony has no offerings in that range lol

Nikon is miles ahead of both Sony/Canon in their telephoto lineup, and that's objective fact with no room for interpretation.

Additionally, all of Sony's E Glass is adaptable to Nikon, but not the other way around. And that's not even taking F glass into consideration.

Back to on topic - these Sony releases are very exciting. as others mentioned the A9III will not be a camera for me, since it is targeted specifically for high end sports shooters. but the capabilities are nice, because inevitably those will filter down to "mid-grade" bodies in the near future.

and a 300 f2.8 at the weight of past 70-200s is certainly awesome. I've been waiting to see which manufacturer would bring out a modern 200 f2, and I think Sony may be on the right track


I believe the discussion was about optical quality not number of available lenses.

Stop this teenage language of 'smoke', 'miles ahead', etc.. I am glad for Nikon users if they have multiple tele lens options. I think there are plenty enough in the Sony FE mount too for those who can afford them. Canon on the other hand has interesting super tele lenses that are very affordable for most people. If there is any real advantage for people who are bragging about Nikon tele lenses over Sony, I wonder who among them really possess any of these expensive lenses? I actually think Canon might be well ahead of Sony and Nikon in this regard with their economic approach: numerous very affordable tele lenses. Besides, Canon has multiple different EF-RF adapters to use EF lenses on RF mount seamlessly. However, I don't want to continue discussing this, because the original claim was about performance, not the number nor the price.




Nov 10, 2023 at 06:01 PM
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Re: Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced


nmerc_photos wrote:
raminolta wrote:
CATProductions wrote:
raminolta wrote:
berimbolo wrote:
raminolta wrote:
wind30 wrote:
Dave Sanders wrote:
wind30 wrote:
… I am going to buy a z8 tmr…. Sony really has lost touch with what people want.


Why not the A1?


Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.


A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.



The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.


I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.

PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.



The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.


Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.

Not to stoke the fire, but do you really not see that Nikon's line up smokes Sony's?

Sony has

200-600
300 f2.8
400 f2.8 (no TC)
600 f4 (no TC)

Nikon has

180-600 (which is an actual 600mm, not the ~550mm of the Sony)
400 f2.8 w/ TC
400 f4.5
600 f4 w/ TC
600 f6.3
800 f6.3

your argument seems to be about the quality of the optics, but you literally can't compare optical quality on most of these - because Sony has no offerings in that range lol

Nikon is miles ahead of both Sony/Canon in their telephoto lineup, and that's objective fact with no room for interpretation.

Additionally, all of Sony's E Glass is adaptable to Nikon, but not the other way around. And that's not even taking F glass into consideration.

Back to on topic - these Sony releases are very exciting. as others mentioned the A9III will not be a camera for me, since it is targeted specifically for high end sports shooters. but the capabilities are nice, because inevitably those will filter down to "mid-grade" bodies in the near future.

and a 300 f2.8 at the weight of past 70-200s is certainly awesome. I've been waiting to see which manufacturer would bring out a modern 200 f2, and I think Sony may be on the right track


I believe the discussion was about optical quality not number of available lenses.

Stop this teenage language of 'smoke', 'miles ahead', etc.. I am glad for Nikon users if they have multiple tele lens options. I think there are plenty enough in the Sony FE mount too for those who can afford them. Canon on the other hand has interesting super tele lenses that are not super expensive but affordable for most people. If there is any real advantage for people who are bragging about Nikon tele lenses over Sony, I wonder who among them really possess any of these expensive lenses? I actually think Canon might be well ahead of Sony and Nikon in this regard with their economic approach: numerous very affordable tele lenses. Besides, Canon has multiple different EF-RF adapters to use EF lenses on RF mount seamlessly. However, I don't want to continue discussing this, because the original claim was about performance, not the number nor the price.




Nov 10, 2023 at 05:59 PM
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Re: Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced


nmerc_photos wrote:
raminolta wrote:
CATProductions wrote:
raminolta wrote:
berimbolo wrote:
raminolta wrote:
wind30 wrote:
Dave Sanders wrote:
wind30 wrote:
… I am going to buy a z8 tmr…. Sony really has lost touch with what people want.


Why not the A1?


Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.


A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.



The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.


I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.

PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.



The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.


Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.

Not to stoke the fire, but do you really not see that Nikon's line up smokes Sony's?

Sony has

200-600
300 f2.8
400 f2.8 (no TC)
600 f4 (no TC)

Nikon has

180-600 (which is an actual 600mm, not the ~550mm of the Sony)
400 f2.8 w/ TC
400 f4.5
600 f4 w/ TC
600 f6.3
800 f6.3

your argument seems to be about the quality of the optics, but you literally can't compare optical quality on most of these - because Sony has no offerings in that range lol

Nikon is miles ahead of both Sony/Canon in their telephoto lineup, and that's objective fact with no room for interpretation.

Additionally, all of Sony's E Glass is adaptable to Nikon, but not the other way around. And that's not even taking F glass into consideration.

Back to on topic - these Sony releases are very exciting. as others mentioned the A9III will not be a camera for me, since it is targeted specifically for high end sports shooters. but the capabilities are nice, because inevitably those will filter down to "mid-grade" bodies in the near future.

and a 300 f2.8 at the weight of past 70-200s is certainly awesome. I've been waiting to see which manufacturer would bring out a modern 200 f2, and I think Sony may be on the right track


I believe the discussion was about optical quality not number of available lenses.

Stop this teenage language of 'smoke', 'miles ahead', etc.. I am glad for Nikon users if they have multiple tele lens options. I think there are plenty enough in the Sony FE mount too for those who can afford them. Canon on the other hand has interesting super tele lenses that are not super expensive but affordable for most people. If there is any real advantage for people who are bragging about Nikon tele lenses over Sony, I wonder who among them really possess any of these expensive lenses? I actually think Canon might be well ahead of Sony and Nikon in this regard with their economic approach: numerous very affordable tele lenses. Besides, Canon has multiple different EF-RF adapters so using EF lenses on RF mount seamlessly. However, I don't want to continue discussing this, because the original claim was about performance, not the number nor the price.




Nov 10, 2023 at 05:58 PM
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Re: Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced


nmerc_photos wrote:
raminolta wrote:
CATProductions wrote:
raminolta wrote:
berimbolo wrote:
raminolta wrote:
wind30 wrote:
Dave Sanders wrote:
wind30 wrote:
… I am going to buy a z8 tmr…. Sony really has lost touch with what people want.


Why not the A1?


Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.


A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.



The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.


I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.

PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.



The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.


Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.

Not to stoke the fire, but do you really not see that Nikon's line up smokes Sony's?

Sony has

200-600
300 f2.8
400 f2.8 (no TC)
600 f4 (no TC)

Nikon has

180-600 (which is an actual 600mm, not the ~550mm of the Sony)
400 f2.8 w/ TC
400 f4.5
600 f4 w/ TC
600 f6.3
800 f6.3

your argument seems to be about the quality of the optics, but you literally can't compare optical quality on most of these - because Sony has no offerings in that range lol

Nikon is miles ahead of both Sony/Canon in their telephoto lineup, and that's objective fact with no room for interpretation.

Additionally, all of Sony's E Glass is adaptable to Nikon, but not the other way around. And that's not even taking F glass into consideration.

Back to on topic - these Sony releases are very exciting. as others mentioned the A9III will not be a camera for me, since it is targeted specifically for high end sports shooters. but the capabilities are nice, because inevitably those will filter down to "mid-grade" bodies in the near future.

and a 300 f2.8 at the weight of past 70-200s is certainly awesome. I've been waiting to see which manufacturer would bring out a modern 200 f2, and I think Sony may be on the right track


I believe the discussion was about optical quality not number of available lenses.

Stop this teenage language of 'smoke', 'miles ahead', etc.. I am glad for Nikon users if they have multiple tele lens options they want. I think there are plenty enough in the Sony FE mount too for those who can afford them. Canon on the other hand has interesting super tele lenses that are not super expensive but affordable for most people. If there is any real advantage for people who are bragging about Nikon tele lenses over Sony, I wonder who among them really possess any of these expensive lenses? I actually think Canon might be well ahead of Sony and Nikon in this regard with their economic approach: numerous very affordable tele lenses. Besides, Canon has multiple different EF-RF adapters so using EF lenses on RF mount seamlessly. However, I don't want to continue discussing this, because the original claim was about performance, not the number nor the price.




Nov 10, 2023 at 05:58 PM
raminolta
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Re: Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced


nmerc_photos wrote:
raminolta wrote:
CATProductions wrote:
raminolta wrote:
berimbolo wrote:
raminolta wrote:
wind30 wrote:
Dave Sanders wrote:
wind30 wrote:
… I am going to buy a z8 tmr…. Sony really has lost touch with what people want.


Why not the A1?


Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.


A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.



The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.


I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.

PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.



The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.


Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.

Not to stoke the fire, but do you really not see that Nikon's line up smokes Sony's?

Sony has

200-600
300 f2.8
400 f2.8 (no TC)
600 f4 (no TC)

Nikon has

180-600 (which is an actual 600mm, not the ~550mm of the Sony)
400 f2.8 w/ TC
400 f4.5
600 f4 w/ TC
600 f6.3
800 f6.3

your argument seems to be about the quality of the optics, but you literally can't compare optical quality on most of these - because Sony has no offerings in that range lol

Nikon is miles ahead of both Sony/Canon in their telephoto lineup, and that's objective fact with no room for interpretation.

Additionally, all of Sony's E Glass is adaptable to Nikon, but not the other way around. And that's not even taking F glass into consideration.

Back to on topic - these Sony releases are very exciting. as others mentioned the A9III will not be a camera for me, since it is targeted specifically for high end sports shooters. but the capabilities are nice, because inevitably those will filter down to "mid-grade" bodies in the near future.

and a 300 f2.8 at the weight of past 70-200s is certainly awesome. I've been waiting to see which manufacturer would bring out a modern 200 f2, and I think Sony may be on the right track


I believe the discussion was about optical quality not number of available lenses.

Stop this teenage language of 'smoke', 'miles ahead', etc.. I am glad for Nikon users if they have multiple tele lens options they want. I think there are plenty enough in the Sony FE mount too for those who can afford them. Canon on the other hand has interesting super tele lenses that are not super expensive but affordable for most people. If there is any real advantage for people who are bragging about Nikon tele lenses over Sony, I wonder who among them really possess any of these expensive lenses? I actually think Canon might be well ahead of Sony and Nikon in this regard with their more useful approach: numerous very affordable tele lenses. Besides, Canon has multiple different EF-RF adapters so using EF lenses on RF mount seamlessly. However, I don't want to continue discussing this, because the original claim was about performance, not the number nor the price.




Nov 10, 2023 at 05:57 PM
raminolta
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Re: Official: Sony A9 III and FE 300mm f/2.8 GM announced


nmerc_photos wrote:
raminolta wrote:
CATProductions wrote:
raminolta wrote:
berimbolo wrote:
raminolta wrote:
wind30 wrote:
Dave Sanders wrote:
wind30 wrote:
… I am going to buy a z8 tmr…. Sony really has lost touch with what people want.


Why not the A1?


Z8 cheaper. Sony does not understand that they need a good eshutter camera at around a7r5 price point.


A9 iii is aimed at pro sport and action shooters who can make use of its exceptional abilities. It's not a surprise that Sony has released the camera and the 300mm lens before the upcoming Olympic games. I am sure Sony wants to lure all those professional sport photographers to Sony. This camera is clearly not aimed at you, nor at me as I don['t even shoot sports or any sort of action. If this camera doesn't fit your budget, a used Sony A1 does which can be found for around $4000 nowadays. A1 is a better camera than Z8, IMO.If it were me, I would choose a used A1 for Z8 any day. Just the lenses that are available for the ony system alone, makes it a better choice.



The Z-mount long lens line up beats Sony quite easily IMO, but not easily enough to justify switching systems.


I have no reason to think so but I agree when it comes to long tele lenses, all three players are probably at about the same stage as of now though the lenses aren't exactly equivalent. The person to whom I responded, did not seem being a long tele lens shooter anyway. I checked his website, and to me, it seemed his talk of Nikon over Sony was not justified. For me and for him Sony is clearly a better choice: better autofocus and better lens line up.

PS. Forgot to mention: there are third party long tele zooms ( from Tamron and Sigma) in the Sony ecosystem which as far as I know aren't available in the Nikon and Canon systems. These lenses are more affordable than oem so for budget conscious shooters, Sony is still a better choice even in the long tele range.



The Nikon telephoto lineup completely smokes Sony’s telephoto lineup. Sorry, but It’s not even close.


Wow, that's so BS. Brand prejudice at all high, lol.

Not to stoke the fire, but do you really not see that Nikon's line up smokes Sony's?

Sony has

200-600
300 f2.8
400 f2.8 (no TC)
600 f4 (no TC)

Nikon has

180-600 (which is an actual 600mm, not the ~550mm of the Sony)
400 f2.8 w/ TC
400 f4.5
600 f4 w/ TC
600 f6.3
800 f6.3

your argument seems to be about the quality of the optics, but you literally can't compare optical quality on most of these - because Sony has no offerings in that range lol

Nikon is miles ahead of both Sony/Canon in their telephoto lineup, and that's objective fact with no room for interpretation.

Additionally, all of Sony's E Glass is adaptable to Nikon, but not the other way around. And that's not even taking F glass into consideration.

Back to on topic - these Sony releases are very exciting. as others mentioned the A9III will not be a camera for me, since it is targeted specifically for high end sports shooters. but the capabilities are nice, because inevitably those will filter down to "mid-grade" bodies in the near future.

and a 300 f2.8 at the weight of past 70-200s is certainly awesome. I've been waiting to see which manufacturer would bring out a modern 200 f2, and I think Sony may be on the right track


I believe the discussion was about optical quality not number of available lenses.

Stop this teenage language of 'smoke', 'miles ahead', etc.. I am glad for Nikon users if they have multiple tele lens options they want. I think there are plenty enough in the Sony FE mount too for those who can afford them. Canon on the other hand has interesting super tele lenses that are not super expensive but affordable for most people. If there is any real advantage for people who are bragging about Nikon tele lenses over Sony, I wonder who among them really possess any of these expensive lenses? I actually think Canon might be well ahead of Sony and Nikon in this regard with their more useful approach: numerous very affordable tele lenses. Besides, Canon has multiple different EF-RF adapters so using EF lenses on RF mount seems seamless. However, I don't want to continue discussing this, because the original claim was about performance, not the number nor the price.




Nov 10, 2023 at 01:52 PM





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