Not much time anymore for this, but you will notice one first important difference... these claims were made by a Nikon user in the Nikon forum. I have never posted in the Sony or Canon forums, not a single time in my life.
On your "points", in a few seconds:
- The only other camera offering in camera full frame raw at 8K60 in 12bits without theoretical time limit is the R5 but with well documented over heating issues. No other camera does this short of RED, this is purely factual. I'll amend that with the new video centric R5 C that is probably close to Z9 level but suffers from ruggedness issues since it requires a fan to bypass its structural inability to dissipate heat.
The Sony FX pro video cameras are of course great tools with a proven track record and many video centric capabilities that the Z9 lacks since it targets different usage use cases (the Z9 targeting hybrid shooters doing both still and video, typically for nature/wildlife/sports/events/...)... but in terms of video quality they happen to trail the Z9. This is a fact that I am not particularly sad or happy about. And that's all I wrote in the post that you quoted.
Some of the Black Magic cameras are very interesting too, but they typically use a smaller sensor. Panasonic GH are amazing but small sensors and no in camera 12 bits raw,... the list goes on.
Do you have first hand experience with video (perhaps some footage you shot available online?) or some facts proving me wrong or are you just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing?
- The lead of Nikon DSLRs in terms of image quality (high ISO noise, low ISO DR,...), AF,... was documented in literally hundreds of tests throughout these years. Any objective reader knows. This is the main reason why Canon users fled massively towards Sony mirrorless together with the ability to adapt their EF lenses with reasonably good AF (far from as good as what can be achieved adapting Sony FE mount lenses on Z camera, but still usable).
Not much time anymore for this, but you will notice one first important difference... these claims were made by a Nikon user in the Nikon forum. I have never posted in the Sony or Canon forums, not a single time in my life.
On your "points", in a few seconds:
- The only other camera offering in camera full frame raw at 8K60 in 12bits without theoretical time limit is the R5 but with well documented over heating issues. No other camera does this short of RED, this is purely factual. I'll amend that with the new video centric R5 C that is probably close to Z9 level but suffers from ruggedness issues since it requires a fan to bypass its structural inability to dissipate heat.
The Sony FX pro video cameras are of course great tools with a proven track record and many video centric capabilities that the Z9 lacks since it targets different usage use cases (the Z9 targeting hybrid shooters doing both still and video, typically for nature/wildlife/sports/events/...)... but in terms of video quality they happen to trail the Z9. This is a fact that I am not particularly sad or happy about. And that's all I wrote in the post that you quoted.
Some of the Black Magic cameras are very interesting too, but they typically use a smaller sensor.
Do you have first hand experience with video (perhaps some footage you shot available online?) or some facts proving me wrong or are you just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing?
- The lead of Nikon DSLRs in terms of image quality (high ISO noise, low ISO DR,...), AF,... was documented in literally hundreds of tests throughout these years. Any objective reader knows. This is the main reason why Canon users fled massively towards Sony mirrorless together with the ability to adapt their EF lenses with reasonably good AF (far from as good as what can be achieved adapting Sony FE mount lenses on Z camera, but still usable).
Not much time anymore for this, but you will notice one first important difference... these claims were made by a Nikon user in the Nikon forum. I have never posted in the Sony or Canon forums, not a single time in my life.
On your "points", in a few seconds:
- The only other camera offering in camera raw at 8K60 in 12bits without theoretical time limit is the R5 but with well documented over heating issues. No other camera does this short of RED, this is purely factual. I'll amend that with the new video centric R5 C that is probably close to Z9 level but suffers from ruggedness issues since it requires a fan to bypass its structural inability to dissipate heat.
The Sony FX pro video cameras are of course great tools with a proven track record and many video centric capabilities that the Z9 lacks since it targets different usage use cases (the Z9 targeting hybrid shooters doing both still and video, typically for nature/wildlife/sports/events/...)... but in terms of video quality they happen to trail the Z9. This is a fact that I am not particularly sad or happy about. And that's all I wrote in the post that you quoted.
- The lead of Nikon DSLRs in terms of image quality (high ISO noise, low ISO DR,...), AF,... was documented in literally hundreds of tests throughout these years. Any objective reader knows. This is the main reason why Canon users fled massively towards Sony mirrorless together with the ability to adapt their EF lenses with reasonably good AF (far from as good as what can be achieved adapting Sony FE mount lenses on Z camera, but still usable).
Cheers,
Bernard
Oct 24, 2023 at 08:45 PM
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