phinix wrote: Max Power wrote: molson wrote: bernardl wrote:
That and they don't uphold this standard themselves. There is an actual word for that...
Replace Nikon by Sony in the sentence above and we have a more relevant depiction of what’s happening here…
That's probably true, but for some reason the Nikon "my brand is the best" bias seems to reach toxic levels on this forum. As much as I like Nikon (my primary camera system), you have to hold your nose to participate in some of these discussions...
I think most Nikon users in these forums will tell you they are not the best at everything. I do notice some go on the defensive quite a bit because, well........they kind of have to. If the people who want to talk about Sony all the time would just stick to their own forums, we wouldn't see this defensiveness.
If I ever could be bothered to go to the Sony forum, I would probably not see nearly as much Nikon content over there than we see Sony content here.
I knew right away when I saw this thread it was gonna be a problem and who was going to show up.
To be honest, I did not know that my thread is going to draw attention like that
RE the other thread: You want to upgrade your A7C, mostly for a better EVF experience when shooting Voigtlander lenses but also for improved AF?
A7III (because you mentioned it in the other thread): 1/8000th shutter and slightly better EVF than the A7C. Cheap.
A7RIII Same as above but better EVF and screen (RIIIA), less PDAF coverage (still good, fast AF though), amazing sensor and processor.
A7CII: Similar to what you have now but with more resolution, much better IBIS and better AF. Slightly better screen and EVF. 1/4000th shutter. Lots of other small upgrades. Slightly cheaper than the Zf.
Z6: Better EVF than the A7C or A7III. 1/8000th shutter. Worse AF than the A7C you already have (IMO). Cheap.
Zf: Better than the Z6 and A7C for everything except handling (IMO). Much better IBIS. Shutter, EVF and screen (double the res.) all better than the A7CII.
Sensors: some will prefer the Zf (sllightly better low light, filmic look etc.) which is quite similar to what you have now, some will prefer the A7CII which offers more resolution. Might be worth checking out some sample images.
phinix wrote: Max Power wrote: molson wrote: bernardl wrote:
That and they don't uphold this standard themselves. There is an actual word for that...
Replace Nikon by Sony in the sentence above and we have a more relevant depiction of what’s happening here…
That's probably true, but for some reason the Nikon "my brand is the best" bias seems to reach toxic levels on this forum. As much as I like Nikon (my primary camera system), you have to hold your nose to participate in some of these discussions...
I think most Nikon users in these forums will tell you they are not the best at everything. I do notice some go on the defensive quite a bit because, well........they kind of have to. If the people who want to talk about Sony all the time would just stick to their own forums, we wouldn't see this defensiveness.
If I ever could be bothered to go to the Sony forum, I would probably not see nearly as much Nikon content over there than we see Sony content here.
I knew right away when I saw this thread it was gonna be a problem and who was going to show up.
To be honest, I did not know that my thread is going to draw attention like that
RE the other thread: You want to upgrade your A7C, mostly for a better EVF experience when shooting Voigtlander lenses but also for improved AF?
A7III (because you mentioned it in the other thread): 1/8000th shutter and slightly better EVF than the A7C. Cheap.
A7RIII Same as above but better EVF and screen (RIIIA), less PDAF coverage (still good, fast AF though), amazing sensor and processor.
A7CII: Similar to what you have now but with more resolution, much better IBIS and better AF. Slightly better screen and EVF. 1/4000th shutter. Lots of other small upgrades. Slightly cheaper than the Zf.
Z6: Better EVF than the A7C or A7III. 1/8000th shutter. Worse AF than the A7C you already have (IMO). Cheap.
Zf: Better than the Z6 and A7C for everything except handling (IMO). Much better IBIS. Shutter, EVF and screen (double the res.) all better than the A7CII.
Sensors: some will prefer the Zf (sllightly better low light, filmic look etc.) which is quite similar to what you have now, some will prefer the A7CII which offers more resolution. Might be worth checking out some sample images.
phinix wrote: Max Power wrote: molson wrote: bernardl wrote:
That and they don't uphold this standard themselves. There is an actual word for that...
Replace Nikon by Sony in the sentence above and we have a more relevant depiction of what’s happening here…
That's probably true, but for some reason the Nikon "my brand is the best" bias seems to reach toxic levels on this forum. As much as I like Nikon (my primary camera system), you have to hold your nose to participate in some of these discussions...
I think most Nikon users in these forums will tell you they are not the best at everything. I do notice some go on the defensive quite a bit because, well........they kind of have to. If the people who want to talk about Sony all the time would just stick to their own forums, we wouldn't see this defensiveness.
If I ever could be bothered to go to the Sony forum, I would probably not see nearly as much Nikon content over there than we see Sony content here.
I knew right away when I saw this thread it was gonna be a problem and who was going to show up.
To be honest, I did not know that my thread is going to draw attention like that
RE the other thread: You want to upgrade your A7C, mostly for a better EVF experience when shooting Voigtlander lenses but also for improved AF?
A7III (because you mentioned it in the other thread): 1/8000th shutter and slightly better EVF than the A7C. Cheap.
A7RIII Same as above but better EVF and screen (RIIIA), less PDAF coverage (still good, fast AF though), amazing sensor and processor.
A7CII: Similar to what you have now but with more resolution, much better IBIS and better AF. Slightly better screen and EVF. 1/4000th shutter. Lots of other small upgrades. Slightly cheaper than the Zf.
Z6: Better EVF than the A7C or A7III. 1/8000th shutter. Worse AF than the A7C you already have (IMO). Cheap.
Zf: Better than the Z6 and A7C for everything except handling (IMO). Much better IBIS. Shutter, EVF and screen (double the res.) all better than the A7CII.
Sensors: some will prefer the Zf (sllightly better low light, filmic look etc.), some will prefer the A7CII which offers more resolution. Might be worth checking out some sample images.
phinix wrote: Max Power wrote: molson wrote: bernardl wrote:
That and they don't uphold this standard themselves. There is an actual word for that...
Replace Nikon by Sony in the sentence above and we have a more relevant depiction of what’s happening here…
That's probably true, but for some reason the Nikon "my brand is the best" bias seems to reach toxic levels on this forum. As much as I like Nikon (my primary camera system), you have to hold your nose to participate in some of these discussions...
I think most Nikon users in these forums will tell you they are not the best at everything. I do notice some go on the defensive quite a bit because, well........they kind of have to. If the people who want to talk about Sony all the time would just stick to their own forums, we wouldn't see this defensiveness.
If I ever could be bothered to go to the Sony forum, I would probably not see nearly as much Nikon content over there than we see Sony content here.
I knew right away when I saw this thread it was gonna be a problem and who was going to show up.
To be honest, I did not know that my thread is going to draw attention like that
RE the other thread: You want to upgrade your A7C, mostly for a better EVF experience when shooting Voigtlander lenses but also for improved AF?
A7III (because you mentioned it in the other thread): 1/8000th shutter and slightly better EVF than the A7C. Cheap.
A7RIII Same as above but better EVF and screen (RIIIA), less PDAF coverage (still good, fast, AF though), amazing sensor and processor.
A7CII: Similar to what you have now but with more resolution, much better IBIS and better AF. Slightly better screen and EVF. 1/4000th shutter. Lots of other small upgrades. Slightly cheaper than the Zf.
Z6: Better EVF than the A7C or A7III. 1/8000th shutter. Worse AF than the A7C you already have (IMO). Cheap.
Zf: Better than the Z6 and A7C for everything except handling (IMO). Much better IBIS. Shutter, EVF and screen (double the res.) all better than the A7CII.
Sensors: some will prefer the Zf (sllightly better low light, filmic look etc.), some will prefer the A7CII which offers more resolution. Might be worth checking out some sample images.
Oct 24, 2023 at 06:32 PM
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