kwalsh wrote: JustShootMe wrote: kwalsh wrote: RoamingScott wrote:
Manny has a great visual explanation of Nikon's absolute inanity with this camera's control scheme.
Yeah, I really hadn't paid attention to all this with the Zfc because I wasn't interested in APS-C and no-IBIS. But I did give the Zf a look and at first I mostly thought the main issue was native lenses not having aperture rings. Digging deeper this PASM + dedicated dials just struck me as a really bizarre design decision. The linked video illustrates it well - a little lever on one side of the top plate suddenly makes a giant high contrast dial on the other side of the body essentially lie to the user. Borderline pathological UI design.
But anyway, no doubt regular users will work around it just like we seem to work around a variety of foibles each manufacturer insists on adding to their interfaces.
Sorry to yuck anyone's yum! (as they used to say in my daughter's kindergarten class)
I used the Zfc for about 6 months or so , I can't say that the auto ISO implementation is much of an issue. You just get use to it , every camera is a bit different. 2 seconds to jump into a menu aint gonna ruin anything , people just like complaining. If that's the worst of the complaints, Nikon has a hit on their hands.
The Auto-ISO thing honestly doesn't bother me. I never use Auto-ISO anyway. But the fact that if you are in Aperture Priority mode you've got a giant shutter speed dial that still says some shutter speed on it is confusing as heck. Pretty much every legacy film camera I've ever used implements A mode by turning the shutter speed dial to an "A" position, not having some lever some place that disables the dial regardless of the position of the dial.
Again, it isn't the end of the world by any means. Still seems like really poor UI choice. I suppose it is a side effect of no aperture rings. If there is an A on the Aperture ring as well then there is no need for a PASM lever/dial at all. But without an aperture ring like Nikon Z lenses now you need some way to select Shutter Priority which then leads one to a PASM lever.
It can be confusing IF you refuse to let go of the program mode film camera mentality. By using PASM in A mode, I can leave the shutter dial on the exact shutter speed I want it to be on when I switch from A to S.
Also consider how on non-PASM manual camera with Auto on the dials, to pick up the camera and figure out WTF is going on, you have to look at and consider three different dials, ISO, Shutter Speed, and Aperture, then add that up in your head. With PASM you read left to right and know what's going on without having to even look at a dial.
The dials won't confuse you if you understand PASM logic and have used it even for a few days.
Oct 17, 2023 at 02:37 PM
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