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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own (Edit: owned) a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has vastly better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony offers varied aperture options, size and weight choices and plain innovation (20-70 for example).

Sony has taken care to get most lenses focus closer than the norm. Better max magnification ratios generally speaking.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter and they really shine with small primes. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics come in the play. A bigger lens on a small camera is not ideal. So Nikon bodies, though larger, have better feel in the hand.

Sony design is a brick and then they add buttons, dials and knobs on it. If you look at a7rIII and a9, the underlying brick is same, they just added those dials on top left on a9. Nikon design is more organic or cohesive, and buttons etc flow nicely. More character.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has a small LCD window at the top, Sony has many dials including one for exposure compensation.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly.



Jul 16, 2023 at 01:48 AM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I owned a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has vastly better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony offers varied aperture options, size and weight choices and plain innovation (20-70 for example).

Sony has taken care to get most lenses focus closer than the norm. Better max magnification ratios generally speaking.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter and they really shine with small primes. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics come in the play. A bigger lens on a small camera is not ideal. So Nikon bodies, though larger, have better feel in the hand.

Sony design is a brick and then they add buttons, dials and knobs on it. If you look at a7rIII and a9, the underlying brick is same, they just added those dials on top left on a9. Nikon design is more organic or cohesive, and buttons etc flow nicely. More character.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has a small LCD window at the top, Sony has many dials including one for exposure compensation.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly.



Jul 16, 2023 at 01:47 AM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has vastly better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony offers varied aperture options, size and weight choices and plain innovation (20-70 for example).

Sony has taken care to get most lenses focus closer than the norm. Better max magnification ratios generally speaking.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter and they really shine with small primes. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics come in the play. A bigger lens on a small camera is not ideal. So Nikon bodies, though larger, have better feel in the hand.

Sony design is a brick and then they add buttons, dials and knobs on it. If you look at a7rIII and a9, the underlying brick is same, they just added those dials on top left on a9. Nikon design is more organic or cohesive, and buttons etc flow nicely. More character.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has a small LCD window at the top, Sony has many dials including one for exposure compensation.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly.



Jul 12, 2023 at 07:50 AM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has vastly better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony offers varied aperture options, size and weight choices and plain innovation (20-70 for example).

Sony has taken care to get most lenses focus closer than the norm. Better max magnification ratios generally speaking.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter and they really shine with small primes. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics come in the play. A bigger lens on a small camera is not ideal. So Nikon bodies, though larger, have better feel in the hand.

Sony design is a brick and then they add buttons, dials and knobs on it. If you look at a7rIII and a9, the underlying brick is same, they just added those dials on top left on a9. Nikon design is more organic or cohesive, and buttons etc flow nicely. More character.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has a small LCD window at the top, Sony has many dials including one for exposure compensation.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature or intervalometer…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly.



Jul 09, 2023 at 08:56 AM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has vastly better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony offers varied aperture options, size and weight choices and plain innovation (20-70 for example, or internally focussing 200-600 when it came).

Sony has taken care to get most lenses focus closer than the norm. Better max magnification ratios generally speaking.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter and they really shine with small primes. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics come in the play. A bigger lens on a small camera is not ideal. So Nikon bodies, though larger, have better feel in the hand.

Sony design is a brick and then they add buttons, dials and knobs on it. If you look at a7rIII and a9, the underlying brick is same, they just added those dials on top left on a9. Nikon design is more organic or cohesive, and buttons etc flow nicely. More character.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has a small LCD window at the top, Sony has many dials including one for exposure compensation.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature or intervalometer…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly.



Jun 26, 2023 at 03:33 PM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has vastly better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony lenses are lighter, smaller and sexier looking at least to me. They offer varied aperture choices, size and weight choices and plain innovation (20-70 for example, or internally focussing 200-600 when it came).

Sony has taken care to get most lenses focus closer than the norm. Better max magnification ratios generally speaking.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter and they really shine with small primes. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics come in the play. A bigger lens on a small camera is not ideal. So Nikon bodies, though larger, have better feel in the hand.

Sony design is a brick and then they add buttons, dials and knobs on it. If you look at a7rIII and a9, the underlying brick is same, they just added those dials on top left on a9. Nikon design is more organic or cohesive, and buttons etc flow nicely. More character.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has a small LCD window at the top, Sony has many dials including one for exposure compensation.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature or intervalometer…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly.



Jun 26, 2023 at 03:29 PM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has much better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter and they really shine with small primes. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics come in the play. A bigger lens on a small camera is not ideal. So Nikon bodies, though larger, have better feel in the hand.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has a small LCD window at the top, Sony has many dials including one for exposure compensation.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature or intervalometer…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly



Jun 26, 2023 at 11:08 AM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has much better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter and they really shine with small primes. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics come in the play. A bigger lens on a small camera is not ideal. So Nikon bodies, though larger, have better feel in the hand.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature or intervalometer…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly



Jun 26, 2023 at 11:02 AM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has much better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter and they really shine with small primes. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics come in the play. A bigger lens on a small camera is not ideal.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Nikon has better feel in the hand, ergonomics.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature or intervalometer…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly



Jun 26, 2023 at 02:53 AM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has much better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter. Once you mount a lens, the difference may evaporate and ergonomics comes in the picture. A huge lens on a small camera is not ideal.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Nikon has better feel in the hand, ergonomics.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature or intervalometer…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly



Jun 26, 2023 at 02:19 AM
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Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III


In real world usage, Z8 is comparable with relevant Sony cameras, A1 and a9 namely. We can’t compare these bodies on spec alone…you know, this has this, this doesn’t have this etc kind of thing.

I own a Z8 and a Sony also, and they are very different to work with, thats all. One is not inferior over other for sure.

Few differences:

Sony has much better selection of primes of all kind, especially the 3rd party ones. This is a huge huge plus and the reason why i shoot Sony.

Sony bodies are slightly smaller and lighter.

Sony has better specced EVFs but Nikon is also very nice. Same with batteries, if taking along 2 batteries is a deal breaker then Sony is better.

Nikon has better selection of tele lenses. Sony doesn’t have small, light and medium-fast tele primes. If they had, I wouldn’t shoot Nikon.

Nikon has better feel in the hand, ergonomics.

Both have few unique to them software features. Like, Nikon has built in shutter speeds of 15 minutes and Sony has superb implementation of eye AF, even bright monitoring…the sensor shift feature or intervalometer…as Nikon has focus stacking….but none of these features are essential for sure and somewhat easier to implement with the 3rd party solutions.

Nikon has better VR, mostly



Jun 25, 2023 at 11:51 AM





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