Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
Z8 915 grams with battery
A1 665 without battery
We can take 2-3 batteries
30 fps RAW is compressed, both cameras shoot 20 fps RAW in lossless
Beyond nit-picks, both bodies are largely equal in headline features.
Main highlight of Z8 is in disruptive pricing for a flagship featured camera tech. So yes, no innovation here, and Sony had this stuff already for few years, but not in an affordable body.
Ultimately, all cameras will likely have stacked sensors, in few years maybe. Nikon starts this ‘trickle down’ with Z8.
Tells me about the margins Sony has been enjoying with A1 A9 bodies.
osv2 wrote:
z8 is still a porky heavy brick:
a1: 665g
z8: 910g
z8 has lousy battery life, just like the z9:
a1: 530/430
z8: 340/330
z8:
-no 30fps raw
-no heat sink on the sensor
-no 3rd-party lens support to speak of
-weak low rez evf
-backup shooting crippled with uhs-II speeds and two different cards, no cfx-a
-nothing comparable to sony real-time tracking subject acquisition
-still no 200-600, can't trust the nikon lens roadmap
-entire z-mount platform crippled with stepper motors and inability to display true wysiwyg dof
etc.
the only good news i see for the z8 is that it's priced where the z9 should have been priced all along, given that they are basically the same camera.
Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
Z8 915 grams with battery
A1 665 without battery
We can take 2-3 batteries
30 fps RAW is compressed, both cameras shoot 20 fps RAW in lossless
Beyond nit-picks, both bodies are largely equal in headline features. We can’t really say Z6II has 900 second in-camera shutter speed so its better than a7IV as much as we can’t say Z8 has illuminated buttons so its better than A1. Better is what suits us better.
Main highlight of Z8 is in disruptive pricing for a flagship featured camera tech. So yes, no innovation here, and Sony had this stuff already for few years, but not in an affordable body.
Ultimately, all cameras will likely have stacked sensors, in few years maybe. Nikon starts this ‘trickle down’ with Z8.
Tells me about the margins Sony has been enjoying with A1 A9 bodies.
osv2 wrote:
z8 is still a porky heavy brick:
a1: 665g
z8: 910g
z8 has lousy battery life, just like the z9:
a1: 530/430
z8: 340/330
z8:
-no 30fps raw
-no heat sink on the sensor
-no 3rd-party lens support to speak of
-weak low rez evf
-backup shooting crippled with uhs-II speeds and two different cards, no cfx-a
-nothing comparable to sony real-time tracking subject acquisition
-still no 200-600, can't trust the nikon lens roadmap
-entire z-mount platform crippled with stepper motors and inability to display true wysiwyg dof
etc.
the only good news i see for the z8 is that it's priced where the z9 should have been priced all along, given that they are basically the same camera.
Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
Z8 915 grams with battery
A1 665 without battery
We can take 2-3 batteries
30 fps RAW is compressed, both cameras shoot 20 fps RAW in lossless
Beyond nit-picks, both bodies are largely equal in headline features. We can’t really say Z6II has 900 second in-camera shutter speed so its better than a7IV as much as we can’t say Z8 has illuminated buttons so its better than A1. Better is what suits us better.
Main highlight of Z8 is in disruptive pricing for a flagship featured camera tech. A stacked sensor body cannot be compared with a non-stacked one, so Z8 can only be compared with A1 Z9 or a9…
Ultimately, all cameras will likely have stacked sensors, in few years maybe. Nikon starts this ‘trickle down’ with Z8.
Tells me about the margins Sony has been enjoying with A1 A9 bodies.
osv2 wrote:
z8 is still a porky heavy brick:
a1: 665g
z8: 910g
z8 has lousy battery life, just like the z9:
a1: 530/430
z8: 340/330
z8:
-no 30fps raw
-no heat sink on the sensor
-no 3rd-party lens support to speak of
-weak low rez evf
-backup shooting crippled with uhs-II speeds and two different cards, no cfx-a
-nothing comparable to sony real-time tracking subject acquisition
-still no 200-600, can't trust the nikon lens roadmap
-entire z-mount platform crippled with stepper motors and inability to display true wysiwyg dof
etc.
the only good news i see for the z8 is that it's priced where the z9 should have been priced all along, given that they are basically the same camera.
Re: The new Nikon Z8 vs the Sony A7RV and potential A9III
Z8 915 grams with battery
A1 665 without battery
We can take 2-3 batteries
30 fps RAW is compressed, both cameras shoot 20 fps RAW in lossless
Beyond nit-picks, both bodies are largely equal in headline features. We can’t really say Z6II has 900 second in-camera shutter speed so its better than a7IV as much as we can’t say Z8 has illuminated buttons so its better than A1. Better is what suits us better.
Main highlight of Z8 is in disruptive pricing for a flagship featured camera. A stacked sensor body cannot be compared with a non-stacked one, so Z8 can only be compared with A1 Z9 or a9…
Ultimately, all cameras will likely have stacked sensors, in few years maybe. Nikon starts this ‘trickle down’ with Z8.
Tells me about the margins Sony has been enjoying with A1 A9 bodies.
osv2 wrote:
z8 is still a porky heavy brick:
a1: 665g
z8: 910g
z8 has lousy battery life, just like the z9:
a1: 530/430
z8: 340/330
z8:
-no 30fps raw
-no heat sink on the sensor
-no 3rd-party lens support to speak of
-weak low rez evf
-backup shooting crippled with uhs-II speeds and two different cards, no cfx-a
-nothing comparable to sony real-time tracking subject acquisition
-still no 200-600, can't trust the nikon lens roadmap
-entire z-mount platform crippled with stepper motors and inability to display true wysiwyg dof
etc.
the only good news i see for the z8 is that it's priced where the z9 should have been priced all along, given that they are basically the same camera.
May 13, 2023 at 08:19 AM
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