Re: Is Viltrox Getting Sued? (No more RF-EF Adapters/Speedboosters/Lenses)
I googled this timeline so everyone's on the same page.
Sony
- 2010: E mount introduced
- 2011: E mount is licensed to 3rd parties
- 2016: Last dSLR (SLT) was announced
- 2019: Sony becomes #2 player displacing Nikon
- 2021: End of dSLR (SLT) manufacturing
As of today on BHPHoto from 2010-2022 there are
- 63 Sony-branded E mount lens-only SKUs with USA warranty
- 9 Sony-branded E mount full frame body-only SKUs with USA warranty
Canon
- 2018: RF mount introduced
- 2020: Last dSLR was announced
- 2026(?): End of dSLR manufacturing
As of today on BHPHoto from 2018-2022 there are
- 30 Canon-branded RF mount lens-only SKUs with USA warranty
- 5 Canon-branded RF mount full frame body-only SKUs with USA warranty
Nikon
- 2018: Z mount introduced
- 2019: Sony becomes #2 player displacing Nikon
- 2020: last dSLR was announced
- 2021: Z mount is licensed to 3rd parties
- 2026(?): End of dSLR manufacturing
As of today on BHPHoto from 2018-2022 there are
- 29 Nikon-branded Z mount lens-only SKUs with USA warranty
- 4 Nikon-branded Z mount full frame body-only SKUs with USA warranty
It has been reported that Canon Japan's CEO committed to 32 new lenses by year 2026.
63 current Sony-branded E lenses + unknown future lenses.
It is guaranteed Sony will release new lens SKUs that are successors to 10+ year old lenses or unique focal lengths & apertures.
From 2018-2022 Canon Japan has put out key focal lengths that photo news agencies & journalists need in their work.
The 1980s rules has always been about pros & enthusiasts. It was only during 2000-2012 where in consumer point & shots and consumer dSLRs dominated the market. For the last decade smartphone is the primary camera of consumers. It is the secondary camera for enthusiasts & professionals.
jwolfe wrote:
Except they aren’t No. 1 anymore. Sony has been No. 1 in mirrorless sales for several years now. Sure Canon has higher overall sales still, but the world is changing fast. The users that are left are pros and enthusiasts. The rules that Canon has lived by since the 80s don’t apply anymore.
I guarantee you Nikon is not giving away the licensing for free. Tamron is paying for it. This is just my opinion, but Canon stands to lose far more than it will gain by being so unwilling to change, and more importantly, build a large ecosystem for its users (assuming it doesn’t license the mount eventually).
Sony is gaining more and more momentum. And now so is Nikon. They are both innovating, and welcoming partnerships to make the user experience better. And frankly, none of Canon’s technology in mirrorless has broken any ground or really been game changing. It’s all been very safe and boring. Canon revolutionized photography more than once in the past, but it just feels like their bean counters are running things these days.
And believe me, I like Canon. Several of my best sports images in Sports Illustrated were shot on Canon 1D series bodies. I want to see them succeed. The product decisions and market strategy just make no sense to me. But I could be totally wrong, and Canon ends up on top once again.
Re: Is Viltrox Getting Sued? (No more RF-EF Adapters/Speedboosters/Lenses)
I googled this timeline so everyone's on the same page.
Sony
- 2010: E mount introduced
- 2011: E mount is licensed to 3rd parties
- 2016: Last dSLR (SLT) was announced
- 2019: Sony becomes #2 player displacing Nikon
- 2021: End of dSLR (SLT) manufacturing
- 2022: From 2010-2022 there are 63 Sony-branded E mount lens-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
- 2022: From 2010-2022 there are 9 Sony-branded E mount full frame body-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
Canon
- 2018: RF mount introduced
- 2020: Last dSLR was announced
- 2026(?): End of dSLR manufacturing
- 2022: From 2018-2022 there are 30 Canon-branded RF mount lens-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
- 2022: From 2018-2022 there are 5 Canon-branded RF mount full frame body-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
Nikon
- 2018: Z mount introduced
- 2019: Sony becomes #2 player displacing Nikon
- 2020: last dSLR was announced
- 2021: Z mount is licensed to 3rd parties
- 2026(?): End of dSLR manufacturing
- 2022: From 2018-2022 there are 29 Nikon-branded Z mount lens-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
- 2022: From 2018-2022 there are 4 Nikon-branded Z mount full frame body-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
The 1980s rules has always been about pros & enthusiasts. It was only during 2000-2012 where in consumer point & shots and consumer dSLRs dominated the market. For the last decade smartphone is the primary camera of consumers. It is the secondary camera for enthusiasts & professionals.
It has been reported that Canon Japan's CEO committed to 32 new lenses by year 2026.
63 current Sony-branded E lenses + unknown future lenses.
It is guaranteed Sony will release new lens SKUs that are successors to 10+ year old lenses or unique focal lengths & apertures.
From 2018-2022 Canon Japan has put out key focal lengths that photo news agencies & journalists need in their work.
jwolfe wrote:
Except they aren’t No. 1 anymore. Sony has been No. 1 in mirrorless sales for several years now. Sure Canon has higher overall sales still, but the world is changing fast. The users that are left are pros and enthusiasts. The rules that Canon has lived by since the 80s don’t apply anymore.
I guarantee you Nikon is not giving away the licensing for free. Tamron is paying for it. This is just my opinion, but Canon stands to lose far more than it will gain by being so unwilling to change, and more importantly, build a large ecosystem for its users (assuming it doesn’t license the mount eventually).
Sony is gaining more and more momentum. And now so is Nikon. They are both innovating, and welcoming partnerships to make the user experience better. And frankly, none of Canon’s technology in mirrorless has broken any ground or really been game changing. It’s all been very safe and boring. Canon revolutionized photography more than once in the past, but it just feels like their bean counters are running things these days.
And believe me, I like Canon. Several of my best sports images in Sports Illustrated were shot on Canon 1D series bodies. I want to see them succeed. The product decisions and market strategy just make no sense to me. But I could be totally wrong, and Canon ends up on top once again.
Re: Is Viltrox Getting Sued? (No more RF-EF Adapters/Speedboosters/Lenses)
I googled this timeline so everyone's on the same page.
Sony
- 2010: E mount introduced
- 2011: E mount is licensed to 3rd parties
- 2016: Last dSLR (SLT) was announced
- 2019: Sony becomes #2 player displacing Nikon
- 2021: End of dSLR (SLT) manufacturing
- 2022: From 2010-2022 there are 63 Sony-branded E mount lens-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
Canon
- 2018: RF mount introduced
- 2020: Last dSLR was announced
- 2026(?): End of dSLR manufacturing
- 2022: From 2018-2022 there are 30 Canon-branded RF mount lens-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
Nikon
- 2018: Z mount introduced
- 2019: Sony becomes #2 player displacing Nikon
- 2020: last dSLR was announced
- 2021: Z mount is licensed to 3rd parties
- 2026(?): End of dSLR manufacturing
- 2022: From 2018-2022 there are 29 Nikon-branded Z mount lens-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
The 1980s rules has always been about pros & enthusiasts. It was only during 2000-2012 where in consumer point & shots and consumer dSLRs dominated the market. For the last decade smartphone is the primary camera of consumers. It is the secondary camera for enthusiasts & professionals.
It has been reported that Canon Japan's CEO committed to 32 new lenses by year 2026.
63 current Sony-branded E lenses + unknown future lenses.
It is guaranteed Sony will release new lens SKUs that are successors to 10+ year old lenses or unique focal lengths & apertures.
From 2018-2022 Canon Japan has put out key focal lengths that photo news agencies & journalists need in their work.
jwolfe wrote:
Except they aren’t No. 1 anymore. Sony has been No. 1 in mirrorless sales for several years now. Sure Canon has higher overall sales still, but the world is changing fast. The users that are left are pros and enthusiasts. The rules that Canon has lived by since the 80s don’t apply anymore.
I guarantee you Nikon is not giving away the licensing for free. Tamron is paying for it. This is just my opinion, but Canon stands to lose far more than it will gain by being so unwilling to change, and more importantly, build a large ecosystem for its users (assuming it doesn’t license the mount eventually).
Sony is gaining more and more momentum. And now so is Nikon. They are both innovating, and welcoming partnerships to make the user experience better. And frankly, none of Canon’s technology in mirrorless has broken any ground or really been game changing. It’s all been very safe and boring. Canon revolutionized photography more than once in the past, but it just feels like their bean counters are running things these days.
And believe me, I like Canon. Several of my best sports images in Sports Illustrated were shot on Canon 1D series bodies. I want to see them succeed. The product decisions and market strategy just make no sense to me. But I could be totally wrong, and Canon ends up on top once again.
Re: Is Viltrox Getting Sued? (No more RF-EF Adapters/Speedboosters/Lenses)
Sony
- 2010: E mount introduced
- 2011: E mount is licensed to 3rd parties
- 2016: last dSLR (SLT) was released
- 2021: end of dSLR (SLT) manufacturing
- 2022: From 2010-2022 there are 63 Sony-branded E mount lens-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
Canon
- 2018: RF mount introduced
- 2020: last dSLR was released
- 2026(?): end of dSLR manufacturing
- 2022: From 2018-2022 there are 30 Canon-branded RF mount lens-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
Nikon
- 2018: Z mount introduced
- 2020: last dSLR was released
- 2021: Z mount is licensed to 3rd parties
- 2026(?): end of dSLR manufacturing
- 2022: From 2018-2022 there are 29 Nikon-branded Z mount lens-only SKUs on BHPhoto with USA warranty
The 1980s rules has always been about pros & enthusiasts. It was only during 2000-2012 where in consumer point & shots and consumer dSLRs dominated the market. For the last decade smartphone is the primary camera of consumers. It is the secondary camera for enthusiasts & professionals.
It has been reported that Canon Japan's CEO committed to 32 new lenses by year 2026.
From 2018-2022 Canon Japan has put out key focal lengths that photo news agencies & journalists need in their work.
jwolfe wrote:
Except they aren’t No. 1 anymore. Sony has been No. 1 in mirrorless sales for several years now. Sure Canon has higher overall sales still, but the world is changing fast. The users that are left are pros and enthusiasts. The rules that Canon has lived by since the 80s don’t apply anymore.
I guarantee you Nikon is not giving away the licensing for free. Tamron is paying for it. This is just my opinion, but Canon stands to lose far more than it will gain by being so unwilling to change, and more importantly, build a large ecosystem for its users (assuming it doesn’t license the mount eventually).
Sony is gaining more and more momentum. And now so is Nikon. They are both innovating, and welcoming partnerships to make the user experience better. And frankly, none of Canon’s technology in mirrorless has broken any ground or really been game changing. It’s all been very safe and boring. Canon revolutionized photography more than once in the past, but it just feels like their bean counters are running things these days.
And believe me, I like Canon. Several of my best sports images in Sports Illustrated were shot on Canon 1D series bodies. I want to see them succeed. The product decisions and market strategy just make no sense to me. But I could be totally wrong, and Canon ends up on top once again.
Sep 05, 2022 at 09:48 PM
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