Re: "Nikon Z9 vs Sony A1 – The 10 main differences"
JVan_02 wrote: Steve Spencer wrote: JVan_02 wrote: Steve Spencer wrote: 1bwana1 wrote: Steve Spencer wrote:
Yes, the Sony is considerably smaller and faster to AF. The Nikon's advantage as I understand it is primarily for video where it has substantially less focus breathing and here is also where smoothness of the AF is important. For video the speed of the Sony for AF is in some ways a disadvantage and makes shifts in focus a bit too disorienting.
One compromise Sony has often made as I understand it is that in keeping lenses small they have sacrificed focus breathing. I do think that larger lenses can handle focus breathing more easily. For my tastes I am very happy with this compromise, but I can understand for those who want to shoot video a fair bit prefer the opposite decision (making larger lenses with less focus breathing) which Nikon seems to have adopted. This may partly be where the two brands stand regarding video. Sony has lots of options for video both made by themselves and others and therefore can make lenses without worrying about video as much. Nikon pretty much has to rely on themselves for video so may make video performance a higher priority in their lenses.
Sony has recently taken the route of dealing with focus breathing in camera software in their latest bodies like the a7iv. It should soon find its way into other bodies through firmware updates. This is similar to dealing with other issues like distortion, and aberrations with software correction to optical issues. It seems to work very well from what I have seen. For many I am sure this will be a good solution. It may be why Sony has made the compromises it has in these recent GM lenses.
Sorry, IMO, this is a solution for low level video work, but not for high level video work. Precise framing while shooting and planning to shooting is critical for higher level work and having in effect the focal length you will be using vary by the focus distance is simply a huge pain in the ass for high level work.
While the crop varies by focus distance, the frame presented to the end user is constant from the get go and precise framing is possible. Either you don't understand how it works or you've never seen a demonstration.
Or you don't understand how I plan and shoot video? Hmm. I wonder which it is?
I dunno. Pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about.
I have a film production degree and lots of experience behind the camera. If you're worried about the FL of the crop, just calculate the effective FL at MFD for the reproduction ratio. If you're doing it by eye, look through the monitor. It isn't complicated.
Yeah, but you have no idea about how I shoot and what my process is. It is extremely rude to say you think I don't know what I am talking about when you don't know me or what I do. Who said I was worried about focal length on the crop? I didn't. You might know about shooting video, but that doesn't mean you know how I shoot. Kind of arrogant to think you know that and suggest I don't know what I am talking about when you know nothing about my process.
My point is that the software won't work for my process and it is ridiculous for you to challenge that unless you know my process which you don't. So, since you can't challenge my statement you attack me personally by saying I don't know what I am talking about. Not cool. Not cool at all.
Re: "Nikon Z9 vs Sony A1 – The 10 main differences"
JVan_02 wrote: Steve Spencer wrote: JVan_02 wrote: Steve Spencer wrote: 1bwana1 wrote: Steve Spencer wrote:
Yes, the Sony is considerably smaller and faster to AF. The Nikon's advantage as I understand it is primarily for video where it has substantially less focus breathing and here is also where smoothness of the AF is important. For video the speed of the Sony for AF is in some ways a disadvantage and makes shifts in focus a bit too disorienting.
One compromise Sony has often made as I understand it is that in keeping lenses small they have sacrificed focus breathing. I do think that larger lenses can handle focus breathing more easily. For my tastes I am very happy with this compromise, but I can understand for those who want to shoot video a fair bit prefer the opposite decision (making larger lenses with less focus breathing) which Nikon seems to have adopted. This may partly be where the two brands stand regarding video. Sony has lots of options for video both made by themselves and others and therefore can make lenses without worrying about video as much. Nikon pretty much has to rely on themselves for video so may make video performance a higher priority in their lenses.
Sony has recently taken the route of dealing with focus breathing in camera software in their latest bodies like the a7iv. It should soon find its way into other bodies through firmware updates. This is similar to dealing with other issues like distortion, and aberrations with software correction to optical issues. It seems to work very well from what I have seen. For many I am sure this will be a good solution. It may be why Sony has made the compromises it has in these recent GM lenses.
Sorry, IMO, this is a solution for low level video work, but not for high level video work. Precise framing while shooting and planning to shooting is critical for higher level work and having in effect the focal length you will be using vary by the focus distance is simply a huge pain in the ass for high level work.
While the crop varies by focus distance, the frame presented to the end user is constant from the get go and precise framing is possible. Either you don't understand how it works or you've never seen a demonstration.
Or you don't understand how I plan and shoot video? Hmm. I wonder which it is?
I dunno. Pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about.
I have a film production degree and lots of experience behind the camera. If you're worried about the FL of the crop, just calculate the effective FL at MFD for the reproduction ratio. If you're doing it by eye, look through the monitor. It isn't complicated.
Yeah, but you have no idea about how I shoot and what my process is. It is extremely rude to say you think I don't know what I am talking about when you don't know me or what I do. Who said I was worried about focal length on the crop? I didn't. You might know about shooting video, but that doesn't mean you know how I shoot. Kind of arrogant to think you know that and suggest I don't know what I am talking about when you know nothing about my process.
Jan 12, 2022 at 04:50 PM
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