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Ray Swindle wrote:
steveverrall wrote:
Hi everyone,

I was using a Canon 1DXII and EF 500/F4 II a few years ago at air shows but was never satisfied with the AF tracking performance and resolution.

Now I would love to get feedback from others on the current options, which I would think are Canon R5, Sony A1 and Nikon Z9. I think the resolution of the otherwise excellent R3 is too low for my own needs and I would doubt that anyone has shot a Z9 at an air show yet, since they are only just beginning to be delivered.

That leaves the R5 and A1. In my mind, the Sony 200-600 lens is a good reason to go with the A1. The R5 is less expensive, but I don't think there is a comparable lens option, perhaps the 100-500?

Are there any thoughts on which is the better high resolution camera at air shows - the R5 or A1 and which lens choices would you recommend?

Thanks,
Steve.


Steve, if you are interested in the A1, look a few pages back (September-October) at the aircraft shots Douglas (in this thread) has posted with his A1. I don't think he used the 200-600, but the final product is phenomenal. For the R5, the original poster, Jim Wilson has fantastic photos on here from a couple of shows in October that are outstanding. Good luck with that decision.




Merry Christmas Ray! Thank you for the complement!

Steve, this year I used both the Sony 600 f4+1.4 on one A1(or the A7RIV, no long have) and the 200-600 on the other A1. I had never shot airshows at 840mm focal length before. As a matter fact, when I saw people shooting airshows with the big tele primes, I was wondering, don't they need the versatility of a zoom? Lo and behold, I tried the 600 F4+1.4 TC for the first time, I was surprised how much I liked the closeups. But I need to have the 200-600 for the versatility, hence two lenses on two cameras. If I can only use one lens for airshows, it will be the 200-600 hands down. The 200-600 is a very very sharp lens, unless you are unlucky to get a dud. Because it's an internal zoom lens, it's a bit big to pack, but it's super quick to zoom between 200-600.

I have not shot with the Canon R5 but I know it's an outstanding camera, especially for the money, compared to the Sony A1. I don't think the Sony A1 is $2500 better than the Canon R5 but since I have many Sony glasses, the A1 is the only game in town if I want both speed and resolution in one body. The Sony A1 has a much faster sensor read speed so when using electronic shutter for fast moving subjects, there is virtually no jello effect. I read the Canon R5 shows the jello effect for fast moving in certain situations if the background has vertical lines, unless mechanical shutter is used, which will not get you 20 FPS. I think for airshows it doesn't really matter. I have not used the A1's mechanical shutter at all, only electronic, sometimes with the fake shutter sound.

For giggles, my lovely wife bought me a lens for Christmas for the first time. She got me a "Canon lens", even though I shoot Sony, maybe that's what I deserved after buying the Sony 600 f4






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Dec 25, 2021 at 04:45 PM
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Re: Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Ray Swindle wrote:
steveverrall wrote:
Hi everyone,

I was using a Canon 1DXII and EF 500/F4 II a few years ago at air shows but was never satisfied with the AF tracking performance and resolution.

Now I would love to get feedback from others on the current options, which I would think are Canon R5, Sony A1 and Nikon Z9. I think the resolution of the otherwise excellent R3 is too low for my own needs and I would doubt that anyone has shot a Z9 at an air show yet, since they are only just beginning to be delivered.

That leaves the R5 and A1. In my mind, the Sony 200-600 lens is a good reason to go with the A1. The R5 is less expensive, but I don't think there is a comparable lens option, perhaps the 100-500?

Are there any thoughts on which is the better high resolution camera at air shows - the R5 or A1 and which lens choices would you recommend?

Thanks,
Steve.


Steve, if you are interested in the A1, look a few pages back (September-October) at the aircraft shots Douglas (in this thread) has posted with his A1. I don't think he used the 200-600, but the final product is phenomenal. For the R5, the original poster, Jim Wilson has fantastic photos on here from a couple of shows in October that are outstanding. Good luck with that decision.




Merry Christmas Ray! Thank you for the complement!

Steve, this year I used both the Sony 600 f4+1.4 on one A1(or the A7RIV, no long have) and the 200-600 on the other A1. I had never shot airshows at 840mm focal length before. As a matter fact, when I saw people shooting airshows with the big tele primes, I was wondering, don't they need the versatility of a zoom? Lo and behold, I tried the 600 F4+1.4 TC for the first time, I was surprised how much I liked the closeups. But I need to have the 200-600 for the versatility, hence two lenses on two cameras. If I can only use one lens for airshows, it will be the 200-600 hands down. The 200-600 is a very very sharp lens, unless you are unlucky to get a dud. Because it's an internal zoom lesn, it's a bit big to pack, but it's super quick to zoom between 200-600.

I have not shot with the Canon R5 but I know it's an outstanding camera, especially for the money, compared to the Sony A1. I don't think the Sony A1 is $2500 better than the Canon R5 but since I have many Sony glasses, the A1 is the only game in town if I want both speed and resolution in one body. The Sony A1 has a much faster sensor read speed so when using electronic shutter for fast moving subjects, there is virtually no jello effect. I read the Canon R5 shows the jello effect for fast moving in certain situations if the background has vertical lines, unless mechanical shutter is used, which will not get you 20 FPS. I think for airshows it doesn't really matter. I have not used the A1's mechanical shutter at all, only electronic, sometimes with the fake shutter sound.

For giggles, my lovely wife bought me a lens for Christmas for the first time. She got me a "Canon lens", even though I shoot Sony, maybe that's what I deserved after buying the Sony 600 f4






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Dec 25, 2021 at 04:44 PM
Douglas L
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Re: Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Ray Swindle wrote:
steveverrall wrote:
Hi everyone,

I was using a Canon 1DXII and EF 500/F4 II a few years ago at air shows but was never satisfied with the AF tracking performance and resolution.

Now I would love to get feedback from others on the current options, which I would think are Canon R5, Sony A1 and Nikon Z9. I think the resolution of the otherwise excellent R3 is too low for my own needs and I would doubt that anyone has shot a Z9 at an air show yet, since they are only just beginning to be delivered.

That leaves the R5 and A1. In my mind, the Sony 200-600 lens is a good reason to go with the A1. The R5 is less expensive, but I don't think there is a comparable lens option, perhaps the 100-500?

Are there any thoughts on which is the better high resolution camera at air shows - the R5 or A1 and which lens choices would you recommend?

Thanks,
Steve.


Steve, if you are interested in the A1, look a few pages back (September-October) at the aircraft shots Douglas (in this thread) has posted with his A1. I don't think he used the 200-600, but the final product is phenomenal. For the R5, the original poster, Jim Wilson has fantastic photos on here from a couple of shows in October that are outstanding. Good luck with that decision.




Merry Christmas Ray! Thank you for the complement!

Steve, this year I used both the Sony 600 f4+1.4 on one A1(or the A7RIV, no long have) and the 200-600 on the other A1. I had never shot airshows at 840mm focal length before. As a matter fact, when I saw people shooting airshows with the big tele primes, I was wondering, don't they need the versatility of a zoom? Lo and behold, I tried the 600 F4+1.4 TC first the first time, I was surprised how much I liked the closeups. But I need to have the 200-600 for the versatility, hence two lenses on two cameras. If I can only use one lens for airshows, it will be the 200-600 hands down. The 200-600 is a very very sharp lens, unless you are unlucky to get a dud. Because it's an internal zoom lesn, it's a bit big to pack, but it's super quick to zoom between 200-600.

I have not shot with the Canon R5 but I know it's an outstanding camera, especially for the money, compared to the Sony A1. I don't think the Sony A1 is $2500 better than the Canon R5 but since I have many Sony glasses, the A1 is the only game in town if I want both speed and resolution in one body. The Sony A1 has a much faster sensor read speed so when using electronic shutter for fast moving subjects, there is virtually no jello effect. I read the Canon R5 shows the jello effect for fast moving in certain situations if the background has vertical lines, unless mechanical shutter is used, which will not get you 20 FPS. I think for airshows it doesn't really matter. I have not used the A1's mechanical shutter at all, only electronic, sometimes with the fake shutter sound.

For giggles, my lovely wife bought me a lens for Christmas for the first time. She got me a "Canon lens", even though I shoot Sony, maybe that's what I deserved after buying the Sony 600 f4






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Dec 25, 2021 at 04:05 PM





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