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rscheffler wrote:
naturephoto1 wrote:

As to cobblestone and such, I would not intend to use my Think Tank Roller except for the purposes of Air Travel and traveling normally from city to city as an example. I would normally expect that we were out for the day and for shooting there would be something on my Back and/or around my waist.


Sorry, I meant for when you're in transit with your family going to your next destination on the trip. Depending on how many places you plan to visit, you'll have to haul everything you brought with you. If you're using public transit, you'll be the one schlepping it rain or shine. You'll be handling a 27" suitcase along with the TT roller and your second carry-on bag. Anything other than smooth surfaces will become a PITA. Wondering if there's a way to ditch the TT roller in the first place?

Regarding the personal carry-on item. I've never experienced a situation where a representative of a US carrier challenged this. I think if it's within a few inches, it'll pass. I'd be really surprised if a half-inch became an issue. Maybe with the bigger bag.

Back before Canada removed the carry-on weight limit of 10kg/bag, I found it was usually at check-in where the issue would arise with overzealous airline staff. But that was also before the self check-in kiosks where you can now conveniently avoid most contact with airline staff. Sometimes I would leave my carry-ons in the car (parked at the terminal), then retrieve them from the car to proceed to security and the gate (and on longer trips, move the car to an off-site discount lot). At the gate, sometimes airline staff would 'sweep' the area for passengers with potentially excessive carry-ons. So instead I'd sit at a nearby empty gate until it was time to board. But honestly, I don't think you need to worry about this aspect of your trip.


Hi Ron,

Here in lies my problem. I have to pack and carry my Leofoto ls-284c tripod that collapses to 17 1/2" alone or 18" with QR clamp in some way. It has to carried on-board in some way, or it has to be in the checked 27" hard sided rolling checked bag in the Think Tank telescoping Bazooka Tripod case. It could be carried on as my carry on in the Bazooka Tripod case. Otherwise I need to carry it onboard in a piece that fits the 45 dimensional inch restrictions. Also, the Think tank BackStory 13 Backpack basically fits the Personal Item requirements for United Airlines. But, I can not fit all of my camera gear and incidentals including batteries, chargers, filters and adapters, memory cards, tripod head, table top tripod, clamp, medications for a month and, sunglasses, cell phone, Computer Backup system with external HD, jacket, hat, etc. into that bag. I do have as mentioned the Mindshift Gear Backlight 26L and Backlight 18L Backpacks that I could use as my Carry on or packed in the checked 27" rolling suitcase. But, then I have 2 backpacks and still no way to carry the Leofoto tripod unless it is in the checked 27" rolling suitcase.

Additionally, at present I also have the Think Tank URBAN ACCESS™ 10 SLING BAG that I could take onto the plane or pack it in the rolling 27" suitcase. I am able to pack 2 Sony bodies with mounted lenses and 2 additional M-mount lenses in this bag.

https://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/urban-access-10-sling-bag

Again going this route there is still no option but to stow the tripod than in the checked bag.

I also know that we are struggling with the idea of carrying the Sony 100-400mm GM lens. Yes it is large and heavy. I could substitute the substantially smaller and lighter Leica R 180mm f3.4 Apo-Teyt or the Leica R 80-200mm f4 Vario Elmar lenses in my carry on bag. They are both not only substantially smaller but also substantially lighter than the Sony. But, here is the rub, I loose the extra focal length. But the A1 in particular at 50 MP gives substantial cropping capability. Not that the A7rIII or A7rII Kolari Vision UT sensor cameras have small cropping capabilities at 42 MP.

Still more things to consider are as mentioned using the Think Tank Belt which I intend to use, I have the mentioned Kinesis Gear M330 Multi Pouch and an older and larger Kinesis Gear pouch that can carry between them 2 cameras with lenses, and I believe 3 additional M-mount lenses.

So at this point, I am pretty settled on carrying 2 camera bodies, one of which is the A7rII Kolari Vision UT sensor modified camera used for WA M-mount lenses including the Voigtlander 28mm, the Leica M WATE as well as the Minolta 40mm M-Rokkor. The other camera body, either the A1 or the A7rIII would be expected to be used with the other lenses.

My lens kit at this point would be the Leica M WATE (though Brad [freaklike] me is now suggesting the Leica M 24mm f3.8 Asph and the Voigtlander 12mm f5.6 VM which would then also eliminate the Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II), Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II Asph VM, Voigtlander 50mm f2 Apo-Lanthar Asph, FE mount, and the Voigtlander 90mm f2.8 Apo-Skopar VM (unless people push me to substitute the Voigtlander 110mm f2.5 Macro Apo-Lanthar that is substantially larger and heavier). To those lenses I am almost positive that I would add the Minolta CLE MC 40mm f2 M-Rokkor because it is so tiny and light (I weighed it again this morning with Minolta caps, UV filter, and Heliopan collapsible lens hood at 5.2 oz). I am also leaning toward including the Voigtlander 12mm f5.6 Heliar III VM lens as well. The big question comes down to the long end of the equation with 3 possibilities for lenses that I presently own, the Leica 180mm f3.4 Apo Telyt, Leica 80-200mm f4 Vario-Elmar, or the Sony 100-400mm GM lenses.

freaklikeme wrote:
I'd go 12, 24, 50, 90, 180. I wouldn't bring the 100-400 unless you're positive it will be useful. I never take anything that long if I'm not hiking. I'd also skip the WATE because the CV 12 is your new baby, and I'm thinking it's going to get more of a workout. Plus, you'll have the safety net of the tried and true 24. If I could change anything about that kit, I'd sub out the APO-Lanthar 50 for something fast and fun, like the 7Artisans 50/1.1. Assuming the 90 works out the way we hope, you'll have a strong kit, but adding in a fun, fast lens might push your creativity in dark spaces.

Just my two cents. I hope you enjoy your trip and happy shooting.


Thanks Brad. I am quite reluctant to take out the WATE as I believe that it will be used substantially more than the Voigtlander 12mm. The Voigtlander will certainly potentially create images that may be a bit more extreme and possibly more dramatic, but it is much much more difficult to control keeping the lines straight without some very interesting effects. Also, I have found that for a lot of landscape work because the lens is so wide that there is so much sky that I believe that I will need to use Grad filters more often than with the WATE which offers 3 focal lengths. As to using the Leica M 24mm f3.8 Asph, yes, it is a nice lens that will need to be used on the A7rII UT sensor modified camera and for best performance will need to be stopped down to f5.6 to f8. I am not sure how much difference I would see between f6.3 and f8 but that is minor. Also, going that route would knock out the new Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron II. As to the question of removing the Sony 100-400mm GM, you have suggested the Leica R 180mm f3.4 Apo-Telyt. But, I also have the Leica R 80-200mm f4 Vario Elmar. The zoom is more flexible, larger, and heavier than the 180mm f3.4 Apo-Telyt and not quite as sharp as the Apo-Telyt. Besides being a bit sharper, smaller, and lighter, the Apo-Telyt can load vertically in the Think Tank roller without the Novoflex Leica R to NEX adapter. For either the Apo-Telyt or the Vario-Elmar either with or without the Novoflex adapter the lenses must be laid on their side in any of the Mindshift Gear or Think Tank Photo Backpacks.

Rich




Nov 25, 2021 at 05:37 AM





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