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naturephoto1 wrote:
LBJ2 wrote:
ChrisMak wrote:
saaketham wrote:
Chris seems awfully mad at Nikon for the integrated grip  Have seen many posts from him complaining about that on the Nikon forum. So since A1 is the king, what prevents you from selling your Nikon gear and switching to Sony? We all agree that a1 is the current topper in nearly all categories.
ChrisMak wrote:
speedmaster20d wrote:
LBJ2 wrote:
For anyone interested in camera technology it would be hard not to investigate/compare the newly announced Nikon Z9 with the January 27, 2021 announced Sony A1 IMO. For those of you like me interested in a quick compare, I believe this may be one of the best articles I've encountered so far:
https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/sony-vs-nikon/z9-vs-a1/
pretty nice side by side.
You can make the Sony almost as big as Nikon, but you can't make the Nikon as small as Sony
That is why I really regret that Nikon, who has been mimicking Sony in their mirrorless strategy with things like their long lens roadmap and their unfortunate neglect of crop (DX), has not copied Sony in making the Z9 a truly allround body, by offering an optional battery grip.
They could have gotten the ergonomics and durability right, only would have had to ease down on 8K video duration (but who cares about 2hrs of 8K video at all).
As it is, the Z9 now is a specialist pro tool for limited shooting scenarios, and Sony reigns supreme as the only brand offering a truly universal camera body for all shooting scenarios.
That is how I see it as someone who shoots with both brands.
Sorry if it comes across like that, awfully mad...
I am not, I am more than fine with the D500 for the years to come.
But that does not take away from the fact that yes, I really do regret Nikon's approach to perhaps the only interesting and capable action body in the Z system for quite a long time to come. And it isn't the integrated grip as such, it is the over specced video and battery life needed for it, and the hefty weight and size that has resulted in. I could have lived with Canon R3 weight, and júst that bit less supersize.
And setting my own regrets aside, I think it would have been better for Nikon users if Nikon had first made a more general, universal flagship camera given the situation where Z cameras now are.
I don't believe for one second in the "trickle down" effect of the Z9 on a short term basis.
The Z9 launch has made me for one, aware that I don't want to be swept away by the vibes and join the rush into using a D6 type of camera, that as a dslr user I would not ever have considered for one moment.
Given the enormous amount of pre orders, I think Nikon has hit a home run.
Does it make Nikon more attractive to me? No, I will use what Nikon gear I have and steer towards changing to the Sony A1 probably.
To me, D6 like bodies are extra terrestrial really. And let's be honest, Sony simply deserves some praise for their ingenious A1. As soon as I were to switch to the A1 for birding and wildlife, I could seamlessly use my Loxia 25 and 35mm f1.4GM on it!
"...The Nikon Z9 is the most DSLR-like mirrorless we've ever seen"
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/4210565040/shooting-experience-the-nikon-z9-is-the-most-dslr-like-mirrorless-we-ve-ever-seen
And for this reason, I think the Z9 will finally push a very large quantity of perfectly happy as is Nikon DSLR holdouts to finally spend some much needed cash for new Nikon products. This IMO is a very strategic design decision by Nikon for its particular circumstance.
My gut feeling is that ultimately (and even though the A1 will have been out for 5 or 6 months and cost $1,000 more than than the Z9), more A1 camera bodies will sell than Z9 bodies.
I think that it would be appropriate to have a poll as to how many will be purchasing a Z9 and include in the poll how many have or will be purchasing an A1.
Rich
Unfortunately, we just don't have current and reliable numbers that I know of. I think the rumored Z9 preorders are the first time I've actually heard preorder or sales numbers for any camera in recent years.
General comments posted by Sony representatives despite the shock price tag on the Sony community, the A1 has outpaced previous Sony camera preorders. Same with Canon's sales figures claiming the R5/R6 turn their camera division sales around dramatically.
But also, to be clear about my last comment, it is about what Nikon needs, not what Sony or Canon needs. I am of the "uninformed" opinion the size and price of the Z9 ( price in North America at least) is very strategic. Actual results as the Z9 actually rolls out might or might not prove otherwise.
The Nikon camera division still has a lot of work to do, but if the Z9 is being preordered at the levels rumored, cash flowing at these rumored levels is certainly the way to move forward.
"Why the Nikon Z 9 Is a Crucial Camera for the Company"-Mike Smith
https://fstoppers.com/gear/why-nikon-z-9-crucial-camera-company-585446
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