Not sure about point #2, but #1 is incorrect. Sony gives you many, many options to control exactly where the system will seek out an eye. If you want limited Eye-AF systems just go over to Canon and Nikon. With Sony you can choose anything from a tiny Small Flex Spot up to an entire sensor and have it look only in that area for the eye. You can be as precise or as automated as you so choose. After that you have the option for the system only to continue to look and track the eye in that area or you can engage a Tracking On custom button (I use my AF-ON button) that will then track that eye over the entire frame. If you instead opt to use a Wide AF area to detect eyes then the option is there to toggle with the joystick between whatever eyes the system detects. I believe Nikon and Canon have this ability also.
In regards to #2, I'm not sure what type of system you are envisioning that would allow you to have total control over AF acquisition v. background distraction on the fly. I've not encountered any camera from Nikon, Canon nor Sony that allow you to do that. All of them have some sort of scale (fairly simple for Nikon and Sony and overly complicated and useless for Canon) to fine tune the system into how reactive you want it to be versus how "sticky" you want it to be.
Exactly.
Descriptions of limited functionality such as those posted here are actually only limitations of understanding of the system. They are not actually limitations of the camera's AI and automation features.
Unfortunate to say the least. But as I said, we should move on.
Ok, we have the Sony fans over claiming yet again. You are actually saying there are no limits to the Sony system only limits to understanding of the system. Come on that is pretty preposterous. Yes, I was talking about wide are AF with Sony. That is the automated mode and that automated mode has some serious limitations as I pointed out. I wasn't talking about customized modes and yes the Sony system has some nice customized modes, but please don't try to say it has zero limitations. That is just an indefensible argument. Even with customization there are limitations to the system and if you think there are zero limitations you just have not thought enough about what the system could do. I am sure Sony will make improvements to the system simply because it has limitations and in time they will over come those limitations, but even then there will still be limits. I find it hard to believe you want to challenge that basic point. Yes, let's please move on.
Not sure about point #2, but #1 is incorrect. Sony gives you many, many options to control exactly where the system will seek out an eye. If you want limited Eye-AF systems just go over to Canon and Nikon. With Sony you can choose anything from a tiny Small Flex Spot up to an entire sensor and have it look only in that area for the eye. You can be as precise or as automated as you so choose. After that you have the option for the system only to continue to look and track the eye in that area or you can engage a Tracking On custom button (I use my AF-ON button) that will then track that eye over the entire frame. If you instead opt to use a Wide AF area to detect eyes then the option is there to toggle with the joystick between whatever eyes the system detects. I believe Nikon and Canon have this ability also.
In regards to #2, I'm not sure what type of system you are envisioning that would allow you to have total control over AF acquisition v. background distraction on the fly. I've not encountered any camera from Nikon, Canon nor Sony that allow you to do that. All of them have some sort of scale (fairly simple for Nikon and Sony and overly complicated and useless for Canon) to fine tune the system into how reactive you want it to be versus how "sticky" you want it to be.
Exactly.
Descriptions of limited functionality such as those posted here are actually only limitations of understanding of the system. They are not actually limitations of the camera's AI and automation features.
Unfortunate to say the least. But as I said, we should move on.
Ok, we have the Sony fans over claiming yet again. You are actually saying there are no limits to the Sony system only limits to understanding of the system. Come on that is pretty preposterous. Yes, I was talking about wide are AF with Sony. That is the automated mode and that automated mode has some serious limitations as I pointed out. I wasn't talking about customized modes and yes the Sony system has some nice customized modes, but please don't try to say it has zero limitations. That is just an indefensible argument. Even with customization there are limitations to the system and if you think there are zero limitations you just have thought enough about what the system could do. I am sure Sony will make improvements to the system simply because it has limitations and in time they will over come those limitations, but even then there will still be limits. I find it hard to believe you want to challenge that basic point. Yes, let's please move on.
Not sure about point #2, but #1 is incorrect. Sony gives you many, many options to control exactly where the system will seek out an eye. If you want limited Eye-AF systems just go over to Canon and Nikon. With Sony you can choose anything from a tiny Small Flex Spot up to an entire sensor and have it look only in that area for the eye. You can be as precise or as automated as you so choose. After that you have the option for the system only to continue to look and track the eye in that area or you can engage a Tracking On custom button (I use my AF-ON button) that will then track that eye over the entire frame. If you instead opt to use a Wide AF area to detect eyes then the option is there to toggle with the joystick between whatever eyes the system detects. I believe Nikon and Canon have this ability also.
In regards to #2, I'm not sure what type of system you are envisioning that would allow you to have total control over AF acquisition v. background distraction on the fly. I've not encountered any camera from Nikon, Canon nor Sony that allow you to do that. All of them have some sort of scale (fairly simple for Nikon and Sony and overly complicated and useless for Canon) to fine tune the system into how reactive you want it to be versus how "sticky" you want it to be.
Exactly.
Descriptions of limited functionality such as those posted here are actually only limitations of understanding of the system. They are not actually limitations of the camera's AI and automation features.
Unfortunate to say the least. But as I said, we should move on.
Ok, we have the Sony fans over claiming yet again. You are actually saying there are no limits to the Sony system only limits to understanding of the system. Come one that is pretty preposterous. Yes, I was talking about wide are AF with Sony. That is the automated mode and that automated mode has some serious limitations as I pointed out. I wasn't talking about customized modes and yes the Sony system has some nice customized modes, but please don't try to say it has zero limitations. That is just an indefensible argument. Even with customization there are limitations to the system and if you think there are zero limitations you just have thought enough about what the system could do. I am sure Sony will make improvements to the system simply because it has limitations and in time they will over come those limitations, but even then there will still be limits. I find it hard to believe you want to challenge that basic point. Yes, let's please move on.
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