Fred Miranda wrote: Jochenb wrote: Ulysseita wrote:
About competitors... I read many words about scans, about labs, about samples, BUT TO ME, and I talk as a photographer before the start of this project, seems a marketing way to sell LUTs over famous name
It's funny that you mention this because that's exactly the way I feel about your Kodachrome pack.
I'm a Steve McCurry fan. Last weekend I even went to his exhibition here (with 200 big prints).
Your Kodachrome last roll profiles are advertised with his name and IMHO the results I'm getting from it don't give me the same look and feel of McCurry at all.
It gives you A film look, but not his famous Kodachrome one.
But oh well, it's your interpretation of that film so it's useless to argue about such things.
BTW, you also advertise your profiles a lot in this thread by saying how superior they are to anything else.
I'm fine with that, but don't use that argument on other companies now please.
I'm also talking as a photographer. I use all the tools I buy a LOT (on a hardware calibrated Eizo CG series monitor) so I can certainly decide for myself what are the positives and negatives of each product.
The thing you get wrong about film emulations is that there's not ONE profile that offers THE look. I depends on the process.
Also: when you decide to only bake in a tone curve with already strongly lifted blacks there's no way you can get those back once the profile is applied. Even when you only slightly apply it the true blacks are gone. That's the whole point.
Hi Jochenb,
I've read your posts and think you are offering great feedback for some of the profiles. I'm sure the Cobalt team really appreciates it.
I have been communicating with Giuseppe @Ulysseita@ since the days he was only offering Lightroom presets, way before Cobalt profiles were even developed. As you can see from his participation on this thread, he offers oustanding customer support and is always very responsive. That's one of the reasons I decided to start this thread. I knew that our members would really appreciate that the company's owner is very hands on.
Sometimes Giuseppe may appear overly confident in some of his posts () but that's just his personality. As you probably can already tell, he has a passion for color correction and film emulation.
You made a good point on the tonality curve applied to some of the film emulations. Perhaps it would be possible to provide an options for flatter tones so users can apply their own curves to taste.
I think it is great to help increase familiarity with the Cobalt profiles. Raw converters like CO1 and Adobe camera raw supply their own base profiles, but these don't offer the best starting point for editing in many scenarios. Especially for those with a color managed workflow, the Cobalt profiles are significantly more useable than e.g. the CO1 generic and ProStandard profiles.
Especially the much better amount and nature of contrast is a blessing. I agree with Giuseppe that your eyes easily get used to "wrong habits", and a good starting point is a great asset.
I have always wondered why the mainstream Raw converters don't offer more neutral and accurate/consistent base profiles, although I remember CO1 forum discussions about a more neutral/accurate base profile always ending up with dogged phrases such as: "accurate color doesn't exist and if it did you wouldn't want it", or "everyone sees colors differently so an accurate profile is senseless", or even when glaringly obvious color deviations were posted: "I don't see any difference!"
So there is certainly a valid reason to get the Cobalt base profiles.
I don't know about the film emulations, I hardly ever use them.
Jun 08, 2021 at 06:45 AM
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) but that's just his personality. As you probably can already tell, he has a passion for color correction and film emulation.