arbitrage wrote: JohnSil wrote: bobbytan wrote:
The competition has only just begun.
The A1 edges out the R5 in terms of overall performance.
If the A1 just, "EDGES", out the R5, if I were Sony I'd put my tail between my legs and go to some corner and cry!!
For God's sake, the R5 is a Prosumer camera!!!
I read in a magazine about 5 years ago that once Canon got serious about digital it would only take 3 years for Canon to dominate the ML field. I don't think it's gonna take that long!!!
John
Funny how the people claiming that have never even touched one of the two cameras. I'll leave it at that since I had both in my bag and shot 10,000s of images with both. People can believe what they want to justify what they bought. I'll shoot both and pick the best. I'd never spend $9K CAD on a camera that just "edges" out a camera I already owned. If that was the case I should have put that $9K towards an RF 600/4 or something.
R3 and R1 are pure speculation at this point. No one knows how they stack up (pun intended) to the A9II and A1.
If Canon wants more of my money they just need to produce that 600/4 DO....simple....they'd steal back every bird photographer that ever left to Nikon and Sony if they did so.
You like Sony. You already told us. Nothing wrong with that, per se, except among other things you keep bringing it up on the Canon board.
As far as 600/4's, I was looking at the weights on B&H, I believe, the other day. 600/4 EF III is the same as the Sony. Like 10g more both 6.7 lbs. R version slightly more 6.8 lbs. So no real weight difference. So I'm not sure why people are moving to Sony and Nikon over weight, at this point? On one hand I'd be interested in your opinion on this, but I'm not sure how it's going to go. I'm certainly not interested in getting hammered over amount spent on camera gear.
We saw the EF prototype in 2015 and it was shorter than a 400/2.8. We don't know about the weight but it should be able to be lighter than the Mk III. I've lost hope that they will make it but you never know. We at least know they were thinking about it seriously 6 years ago.
I was still wearing diapers back in 2015 and happily clicking away with my little 70D, so I missed all the press and internet chatter when Canon teased everyone with that prototype. I've since seen images of it but does anyone know if it was a fully functional lens and not just some type of marketing mock-up? Were people allowed to at least hold it or better yet snap a few shots with it?
Just seems odd to me that they would show such a lens but then never deliver after all these years. Not that I could justify the price tag of such a dream lens but I'm just curious if it was in fact a functional lens that was shown.
There was one working prototype not in a proper final casing (see photo below) and then the final casing in the display case was actually empty of the real elements.
To my knowledge this was the only time Canon ever showed off a lens like this well before it was finalized. We never were told why the project was abandoned (assuming it was abandoned and not just postponed). I still look back at this and find it one of the oddest things Canon has ever done. Usually it would have been something I would have seen and forgot about except that it was basically my dream lens....600/4 in a compact package.
Theories I and others have had about why it never came out are that it was too difficult or innefiencet to get good yields of such. large DO element. The 600III weight saving developments (that must have been in design concurrently) were as good or close enough to make the 600DO weight savings not worth the effort. The EF design was abandoned for an RF design and will come one day.
May 28, 2021 at 05:11 AM
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