Re: Will Nikon build anymore DSLR's, or are they done with DSLR's?
mawz wrote:
Don't forget one thing. Somebody gets to become the SLR equivalent of Leica and their M system. Remember Leica's status as a premium brand didn't really start until the 80's and the M6. Before that they were pricey, but nobody in the 70's considered a Leicaflex superior to an F2 or New F1, same for the M5 (in fact nobody ever really considered the M5 a premium body), Leica's most commercially successful camera in the 70's was the CL.
Pentax is obviously angling for that as their survival plan but I'd bet on Nikon doing it on the side over Pentax doing it as their main thing, if only because Nikon can steal tech from the Z line as that becomes the primary system.
If anything I'd bet we'll see occasional refreshes of the D8x0 bodies every couple Z7 generations until it becomes commercially unviable and that may be a long time.
Note that nothing says Nikon won't do another film body. In fact it might not be a bad time for them to do a F7 on the same frame as the D880 (or break out the FM2n tooling if they're still holding onto it and do an FM4 to make up for the FE3m that they mislabelled as a FM3a, this would be nothing more than an FM2n with selectable spot metering, aka what most FM2n shooters actually wanted from an FM3). The last rangefinder they did was in 2000, almost 30 years after the S system was dead commercially.
I would not read too much into Pentax' "decision" to stay with dslr. If anything, it was a result of inertia, withdrawal of funds and consequently being stuck with dslr. There is simply no way that Pentax could introduce a new mirrorless system with crop and FF bodies and a multitude of lenses. They don't even have the resources to develop modern lenses to fill in the big holes in their current (modern) dslr lens offerings. A 300mm f2.8? a 500mm f4? Just forget about Pentax lenses like that, they are not going to happen. People are still shooting the über heavy 600mm f4 from yesteryear.
I don't see the shift from dslr to mirrorless in the same light as the shift from analog (film) to digital. Film photography is an entirely different world, so I can imagine film cameras still being sold, even though they are antiquated tech.
But what after all is the real difference between a dslr and a mirrorless camera? It is only a pentaprism, AF sensor and a mirror box. When the downsides that came with mirrorless are overcome, with crazy fast stacked sensors and ever improving EVF's, then what incentive could there be to continue producing dslr camera bodies, if there is a more than decent way of adapting the F mount lenses?
I don't see this happening for long, if at all. Some people looked through an EVF years ago, made up their mind that an optical viewfinder is far superior, and are stuck there. For all other shooters, there is so little benefit to al dsr in future, other than perhaps habit.
Any remaining AF issues will be gone with next generation Nikon mirrorless bodies, I have not read a single complaint on the Canon forum about AF with adapted EF lenses being worse than EF lenses on a Canon dslr, quite the opposite in fact...
Re: Will Nikon build anymore DSLR's, or are they done with DSLR's?
mawz wrote:
Don't forget one thing. Somebody gets to become the SLR equivalent of Leica and their M system. Remember Leica's status as a premium brand didn't really start until the 80's and the M6. Before that they were pricey, but nobody in the 70's considered a Leicaflex superior to an F2 or New F1, same for the M5 (in fact nobody ever really considered the M5 a premium body), Leica's most commercially successful camera in the 70's was the CL.
Pentax is obviously angling for that as their survival plan but I'd bet on Nikon doing it on the side over Pentax doing it as their main thing, if only because Nikon can steal tech from the Z line as that becomes the primary system.
If anything I'd bet we'll see occasional refreshes of the D8x0 bodies every couple Z7 generations until it becomes commercially unviable and that may be a long time.
Note that nothing says Nikon won't do another film body. In fact it might not be a bad time for them to do a F7 on the same frame as the D880 (or break out the FM2n tooling if they're still holding onto it and do an FM4 to make up for the FE3m that they mislabelled as a FM3a, this would be nothing more than an FM2n with selectable spot metering, aka what most FM2n shooters actually wanted from an FM3). The last rangefinder they did was in 2000, almost 30 years after the S system was dead commercially.
I would not read too much into Pentax' "decision" to stay with dslr. If anything, it was a result of inertia, withdrawal of funds and consequently being stuck with dslr. There is simply no way that Pentax could introduce a new mirrorless system with crop and FF bodies and a multitude of lenses. They don't even have the resources to develop modern lenses to fill in the big holes in their current (modern) dslr lens offerings. A 300mm f2.8? a 500mm f4? Just forget about Pentax lenses like that, they are not going to happen. People are still shooting the über heavy 600mm f4 from yesteryear.
I don't see the shift from dslr to mirrorless in the same light as the shift from analog (film) to digital. Film photography is an entirely different world, so I can imagine film cameras still being sold, even though they are antiquated tech.
But what after all is the real difference between a dslr and a mirrorless camera? It is only a pentaprism, AF sensor and a mirror box. When the downsides that came with mirrorless are overcome, with crazy fast stacked sensors and ever improving EVF's, than what incentive could there be to continue producing dslr camera bodies, if there is a more than decent way of adapting the F mount lenses?
I don't see this happening for long, if at all. Some people looked through an EVF years ago, made up their mind that an optical viewfinder is far superior, and are stuck there. For all other shooters, there is so little benefit to al dsr in future, other than perhaps habit.
Any remaining AF issues will be gone with next generation Nikon mirrorless bodies, I have not read a single complaint on the Canon forum about AF with adapted EF lenses being worse than EF lenses on a Canon dslr, quite the opposite in fact...
Apr 13, 2021 at 07:07 AM
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