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 Re: Will Nikon build anymore DSLR's, or are they done with DSLR's? | |
bs kite wrote:
To Nikon: Why did you significantly improve LiveView performance in one of your DSLR's (the D780!) , and not do the same in a D850 upgrade? For my needs, that is all you would have needed to do to have a D850 upgrade.
I think there's a consensus that the D850 and its APS-C counterpart, the D500 are the two best DSLR's made to date. Of course this *is* debatable. However, I think most would agree.
But Nikon never finished the D850! It remains incomplete to this day.
The D850 LiveView AF performance is a dinosaur ! It is very loud in video (clickety-clackety) and often hunts and hunts back and forth.
After fighting the focusing nightmare in D850 LiveView for a long time, I finally gave up and went to manual focusing with Focus Peaking (to be fair... Focus Peaking is a very nice feature.  ).
Yes, I want Nikon to "knock the Z9 out of the park", not just begin competing with the A1, but at least pull abreast of it. Why not? Within the last 6 months, a Nikon exec said they would concentrate on mirrorless and forego DSLR upgrade "for now". If Nikon does surpass the D6 as flagship and complete the Z lens roadmap, at that time, they should go back and finish upgrading the D850/D500.
Not to argue with you Robert, but I just don't think that the numbers are on your side. The Nikon D750 may be one of the best selling Nikon FX SLRs made. This body was a mainstay of the "average" photographer (average not referring to skill). It was one of the go to wedding cameras, portrait cameras, family cameras, travel cameras, and high school sports cameras. Many photographers who make a living with their images do to buy the best bodies, as these cameras do not add a lot of value when it comes to sales. For this reason, one often sees Nikon D750s or Canon 5D3's in the typical wedding photographer bag.
I think that the Nikon D780 was a trial balloon to see if Nikon could move photographers into an upgraded, but similar camera. The D780 has all of the improvements that you are seeking in the D850. As far as I can tell, the D780 has been an extremely low selling product. Nobody talks about this camera, and camera shops have not been stocking it. It is the DSLR/MILC hybrid that some D850 shooters want in their D850, but the price to produce and release has been an obstacle to sales. The D780 is too expensive for what it is, and those looking to upgrade their D750's have chosen to go with either the Z6(I or II), or Sony A7iii/iiir/ivr.
If Nikon produces the phantom D880 and prices it with the strategy employed with the D780, you might be looking at $3500 to $4000. The base price of a D850 today is about $3000 (was about $3300), and at the time of release, it was a breakthrough camera. A D880 w/ better live view and silent shutter at $3700 is not a breakthrough camera. For that much money, one might be better off with A7Riv or Canon R5. Furthermore, the sell off of D850's at $2000 or less would require "upgraders" to spend another $1500 + to get into the camera. It is likely that most current D850 shooter would just stick it out with their D850s... heck, that's what the D750 shooters have done. What's more, I know a number of D750 shooters who have replaced their D750 with bargain priced D750's that Nikon puts on sale every 6 months.
If I were going to plunk $3500 to $4000 into a new Nikon camera, I would want it to be spent on Nikon's future... not their past.
regards,
bruce
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