Re: "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread
ChrisMak wrote: Eric214 wrote:
I recently sold my D850 and shoot only the D500 now. There is no right answer to this question only dependant on situation.
If you can 3/4 fill or fill the frame on the D850, there is no doubt the D850 will have more detail then the D500. If you find that you will be cropping down to the D500 fov, you will have slightly less detail (maybe not even noticable but maybe) and you lose the 1 full stop ISO advantage of the full frame sensor.
If you find that you're cropping the majority of your D500 BIF images, there is nothing you really gain with the D850, IQ of ISO advantage.
I've gone back and forth about getting a TC for my D500 Anna 500 PF but based on what I have seen, read and heard, I think I'd rather crop a little than lose 1 stop of light and you lose a little IQ with a TC than cropping. I would need to try one before if buy one for sure at this point.
Hope this helps
The only reason I still keep the 1.4TC, is for the eventuality I might get a 500mm f4E, otherwise I would sell it and accept that I simply don't have any longer focal length than 500mm on the D500. It is not so much about sharpness, but much more about how the images start to look with the 500PF+1.4TC on the D500, they simply lose much if not all of the special quality that the bare 500PF has.
That is why a 600mm f5.6PF is always missing when out birding. I could get by with a 1.5x crop camera and a 600mm f5.6PF, but not a 500mm PF.
Currently I'm holding off getting invested in the more expensive gear because Canon and Nikon are developing new mirrorless super telelenses, and it seems ill fated to spend 10.000 on a lens that is made for a dwindling system. The attractive part of waiting for the new mirrorless lenses, is that TC performance has improved considerably especially with Nikon. Less attractive is the waiting and the lack of a 500mm f4 prime on the roadmap. But perhaps a 400mm f2.8 at 3 kg with both Z TC's would be ideal. When I was shooting Canon with the 400DOII, I found 560mm (with 1.4TC) a very comfortable focal length, with 800mm (with 2.0TC) for serious reach.
I agree, that's why I have held out on getting a TC for my 500 PF. I believe IQ suffers more with a TC then cropping. Plus the TC robs a stop of light.
As far as the Mirrorless game goes. I think the next round (maybe this A1 will get there) or gen of ML will be where the AF truly catches DSLRs like the D500, D850 and D5/6. I find no need to ever buy a new camera or lens again. Buying used is the way to go and has saved me close to 5K this year alone. That said, I will wait for the next gen ML (1-2 years) and then for a mature used market for them so for me it will likely be 4-5 years before I switch to ML. Things could change but unlikely for me. So for people feeling the same might still invest in DSLR and a F mount 600mm f4. It really depends on their own road map going forward. As of now, I don't need anything more then a D500 and 500 PF
This is also why I like APS-C bodies like the D500 for Wildlife/BIF for the native "reach" without TC's. The 500 PF is the equivalent to 750mm and a 1.4 TC is 1050mm.
Everyone has their own point of view on this. Some will want the newest tech, some are happy with current if it gives them what they want/need. The Sony A1 sounds like it's finally the first one with no EVF lag and not losing the BIF after 10 frames. The point is, not many are going to buy a $6.5k camera, I will wait till it trickles down and is more affordable,
Speaking of cropping, these 3 images are at 1:1 crop or very very close to it.
Re: "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread
ChrisMak wrote: Eric214 wrote:
I recently sold my D850 and shoot only the D500 now. There is no right answer to this question only dependant on situation.
If you can 3/4 fill or fill the frame on the D850, there is no doubt the D850 will have more detail then the D500. If you find that you will be cropping down to the D500 fov, you will have slightly less detail (maybe not even noticable but maybe) and you lose the 1 full stop ISO advantage of the full frame sensor.
If you find that you're cropping the majority of your D500 BIF images, there is nothing you really gain with the D850, IQ of ISO advantage.
I've gone back and forth about getting a TC for my D500 Anna 500 PF but based on what I have seen, read and heard, I think I'd rather crop a little than lose 1 stop of light and you lose a little IQ with a TC than cropping. I would need to try one before if buy one for sure at this point.
Hope this helps
The only reason I still keep the 1.4TC, is for the eventuality I might get a 500mm f4E, otherwise I would sell it and accept that I simply don't have any longer focal length than 500mm on the D500. It is not so much about sharpness, but much more about how the images start to look with the 500PF+1.4TC on the D500, they simply lose much if not all of the special quality that the bare 500PF has.
That is why a 600mm f5.6PF is always missing when out birding. I could get by with a 1.5x crop camera and a 600mm f5.6PF, but not a 500mm PF.
Currently I'm holding off getting invested in the more expensive gear because Canon and Nikon are developing new mirrorless super telelenses, and it seems ill fated to spend 10.000 on a lens that is made for a dwindling system. The attractive part of waiting for the new mirrorless lenses, is that TC performance has improved considerably especially with Nikon. Less attractive is the waiting and the lack of a 500mm f4 prime on the roadmap. But perhaps a 400mm f2.8 at 3 kg with both Z TC's would be ideal. When I was shooting Canon with the 400DOII, I found 560mm (with 1.4TC) a very comfortable focal length, with 800mm (with 2.0TC) for serious reach.
I agree, that's why I have held out on getting a TC for my 500 PF. I believe IQ suffers more with a TC then cropping. Plus the TC robs a stop of light.
As far as the Mirrorless game goes. I think the next round (maybe this A1 will get there) or gen of ML will be where the AF truly catches DSLRs like the D500, D850 and D5/6. I find no need to ever buy a new camera or lens again. Buying used is the way to go and has saved me close to 5K this year alone. That said, I will wait for the next gen ML (1-2 years) and then for a mature used market for them so for me it will likely be 4-5 years before I switch to ML. Things could change but unlikely for me. So for people feeling the same might still invest in DSLR and a F mount 600mm f4. It really depends on their on road map going forward. As of now, I don't need anything more then a D500 and 500 PF
This is also why I like APS-C bodies like the D500 for Wildlife/BIF for the native "reach" without TC's. The 500 PF is the equivalent to 750mm and a 1.4 TC is 1050mm.
Everyone has their own point of view on this. Some will want the newest tech, some are happy with current if it gives them what they want/need. The Sony A1 sounds like it's finally the first one with no EVG lag and no losing the BIF after 10 frames. The point is, not many are going to buy a $6.5k camera, I will wait till it trickles down and is more affordable,
Speaking of cropping, these 3 images are at 1:1 crop or very very close to it.
Feb 03, 2021 at 06:58 PM
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