Fred Miranda wrote: zhangyue wrote: Hodie wrote:
What would turn you on? Just asking.
zhangyue wrote:
Contrary to others, Actually this set turns me off. Early link from LINE in Chinese samples also turn down my excitement a little.
I almost want to say this lens is too sharp. maybe it is the post process in both case. I don’t think anybody need show off sharpness in modern days especially for fast prime glass.
There are too many to talk about here. Do I need to go through detail ? I would say if I first see this set a few days ago, I will not interested in this lens. Either his process or something about this lens in some of this light condition totally changed my initially good impression about it. I don't want to be the one ruel the party.
Now I need see more images. The skin tone is quite disaster in this set, but don't get me wrong. I don't buy the generalization about Sony Skin tone have problem, I didn't have problems about it and have no such a complaint and so are many others. You can't expect more "digital" look images than these. I am not saying skin tone has anything to do with this lens. Just bring some hope that it is the process and harsh lighting.
He's probably edited the images to this own taste and post-processing is usually detrimental to rendering. Therefore, I don't think we should make assumptions here except that the lens is indeed very sharp.
Only "out of the camera" samples at mid-distance showing complex backgrounds can help us know more about the lens overall rendering. I say mid-distance because that's where the transition zone becomes part of the background and easier to see rendering quality without the interference of blur.
It's scary to me that the lens is so sharp at close distance. This usually means Sony fully corrected spherical aberration for this lens and that's not good news for those looking for a 35mm with outstanding rendering. The more I see it, the more I think the new 35/1.4 GM has more in common with the 135/1.8's rendering than the 24/1.4 or 85/1.4 GM lenses. However, without testing the lens, it's hard to know for sure. It would be great if a reviewer posted a gallery showing subjects a mid-distance with minimal post-processing, so we can get more clarity on this.
It looks to me like the 35 GM makes some of the compromises of the 24 GM (e.g., small size for less than perfect correction of color aberrations) and some of the compromises of the 135 GM (maximizing sharpness for neutral rendering rather than a softer rendering). I can live with these compromises even though they are not what I prefer. My wife actually favors both of these compromises, and as she will be the primary user of this lens they work our well for us. Still I can see that people might like different ones.
Personally, I would like to sacrifice a bit of sharpness for rendering, and aperture for color correction maintaining a small size, but nobody asks me or seems to design lenses for what I want. The CV 50 f/2 APO comes close, but even there I would be willing to sacrifice a bit of sharpness for a bit better rendering. Even though I don't see many lenses that have the compromises I would really like, I see a lot of really nice lenses with different compromises and that are still attractive. The GM 35 f/1.4 is certainly one of them.
Fred Miranda wrote: zhangyue wrote: Hodie wrote:
What would turn you on? Just asking.
zhangyue wrote:
Contrary to others, Actually this set turns me off. Early link from LINE in Chinese samples also turn down my excitement a little.
I almost want to say this lens is too sharp. maybe it is the post process in both case. I don’t think anybody need show off sharpness in modern days especially for fast prime glass.
There are too many to talk about here. Do I need to go through detail ? I would say if I first see this set a few days ago, I will not interested in this lens. Either his process or something about this lens in some of this light condition totally changed my initially good impression about it. I don't want to be the one ruel the party.
Now I need see more images. The skin tone is quite disaster in this set, but don't get me wrong. I don't buy the generalization about Sony Skin tone have problem, I didn't have problems about it and have no such a complaint and so are many others. You can't expect more "digital" look images than these. I am not saying skin tone has anything to do with this lens. Just bring some hope that it is the process and harsh lighting.
He's probably edited the images to this own taste and post-processing is usually detrimental to rendering. Therefore, I don't think we should make assumptions here except that the lens is indeed very sharp.
Only "out of the camera" samples at mid-distance showing complex backgrounds can help us know more about the lens overall rendering. I say mid-distance because that's where the transition zone becomes part of the background and easier to see rendering quality without the interference of blur.
It's scary to me that the lens is so sharp at close distance. This usually means Sony fully corrected spherical aberration for this lens and that's not good news for those looking for a 35mm with outstanding rendering. The more I see it, the more I think the new 35/1.4 GM has more in common with the 135/1.8's rendering than the 24/1.4 or 85/1.4 GM lenses. However, without testing the lens, it's hard to know for sure. It would be great if a reviewer posted a gallery showing subjects a mid-distance with minimal post-processing, so we can get more clarity on this.
It looks to me like the 35 GM makes some of the compromises of the 24 GM (e.g., small size for less than perfect correction of color aberrations) and some of the compromises of the 135 GM (maximizing sharpness for neutral rendering rather than a softer rendering). Personally, I like the first compromise and live with the second one even though it is not what I prefer, I can live with these reasonable compromises. My wife actually favors both of these compromises and as she will be the primary user of this lens they work our well for us. Still I can see what people might like different ones.
Personally, I would like to sacrifice a bit of sharpness for rendering, and aperture for color correction maintaining a small size, but nobody asks me or seems to design lenses for what I want. The CV 50 f/2 APO comes close, but even there I would be willing to sacrifice a bit of sharpness for a bit better rendering. Even though I don't see many lenses that have the compromises I would really like, I see a lot of really nice lenses with different compromises and that are still attractive. The GM 35 f/1.4 is certainly one of them.
Jan 23, 2021 at 04:09 PM
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maybe it is the post process in both case. I don’t think anybody need show off sharpness in modern days especially for fast prime glass.