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Poefolk wrote:
quantumloop wrote:
Zenon Char wrote:
Poefolk wrote:
Canon sports photog with the R5



Canon got rid of Cases 5 and 6 and I'm guessing they replaced it with Auto. He never tried that. It would have been interesting to see what happened. He did not mention if he adjusted - Switching tracked subjects (page 440 of the manual) to see if he could make the AF points more stubborn.

A technicality. He refers to the Cases as AF. Cases control tracking characters after AF is achieved. He never tried Case 2 and bumping the TS to -2. It would have been interesting to see a little fine tuning of the TS using any Case # and the Switched tracked subjects adjustment. Might be able to bump up that keeper rate.

Also it does not appear he moved the camera. It was good to see how it reacted but in real life even in full zone AF most probably follow the subject as it moves.



You could be right.

And this photographer is not a "Canon sports photographer" as the person who posted this video labeled him. He used to be a sports photographer 10 years ago but seems to have switched to fashion and event photography. He is also not a "Canon photographer" in that he is not sponsored by Canon.

So his knowledge of the AF system for sports may be a bit outdated.


Well, he's a Canon shooter, who used to shoot sports professionally.


He said he used Case 4 a lot. Canon manuals/documents can be a little vague. There are two dimensions. 1.Up, down, left and right. 2. Forward and backward. I always suspected Case 4 was for Forward and Backward movement. The 1DXII AF guide does say that as I recall.

When I was looking for some tips on how to set up my 7D2 I came across a Peter Reid Millar 1DX blog and he recommended to set TS to -2 for sports. Even if used Case 4 I'd also lower the TS. The presenter in the video seemed to just rely on the factory settings which may have been fine. Zone AF is a different animal. Millar was probably not using zone AF back then.

I have another question. Sure tech has come a long way but do you really need eye focus for all sports? Would the A9 as Pius suggested outperform the R5 using eye focus? I took this shortly after getting the 7D2. I friend asked me to shoot his son. I used a 300L F4 IS and it was night game. I had to shoot at 12,800 ISO andI wide open I still couldn't get faster shutter than 1/500. Sometimes slower and you can see the motion blur in his hands a feet. I can tell you that the AF point as no were near his head.








Aug 06, 2020 at 08:47 PM
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Re: Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs


Poefolk wrote:
quantumloop wrote:
Zenon Char wrote:
Poefolk wrote:
Canon sports photog with the R5



Canon got rid of Cases 5 and 6 and I'm guessing they replaced it with Auto. He never tried that. It would have been interesting to see what happened. He did not mention if he adjusted - Switching tracked subjects (page 440 of the manual) to see if he could make the AF points more stubborn.

A technicality. He refers to the Cases as AF. Cases control tracking characters after AF is achieved. He never tried Case 2 and bumping the TS to -2. It would have been interesting to see a little fine tuning of the TS using any Case # and the Switched tracked subjects adjustment. Might be able to bump up that keeper rate.

Also it does not appear he moved the camera. It was good to see how it reacted but in real life even in full zone AF most probably follow the subject as it moves.



You could be right.

And this photographer is not a "Canon sports photographer" as the person who posted this video labeled him. He used to be a sports photographer 10 years ago but seems to have switched to fashion and event photography. He is also not a "Canon photographer" in that he is not sponsored by Canon.

So his knowledge of the AF system for sports may be a bit outdated.


Well, he's a Canon shooter, who used to shoot sports professionally.


He said he used Case 4 a lot. Canon manuals/documents can be a little vague. There are two dimensions. 1.Up, down, left and right. 2. Forward and backward. I always suspected Case 4 was for Forward and Backward movement. The 1DXII AF guide does say that as I recall.

When I was looking for some tips on how to set up my 7D2 I came across a Peter Reid Millar 1DX blog and he recommended to set TS to -2 for sports. Even if used Case 4 I'd also lower the TS. The presenter in the video seemed to just rely on the factory settings which may have been fine. Zone AF is a different animal. Millar was probably not using zone AF back then.

I have another question. Sure tech has come a long way but do you really need eye focus for all sports? Would the A9 as Pius suggested outperform the R5 using eye focus? I took this shortly after getting the 7D2. I friend asked me to shoot his son. I used a 300L F4 IS and it was night game. I had to shoot at 12,800 ISO andI wide open I still couldn't get faster shutter than 1/500. Sometimes slower and you can see the motion blur in his hands a feet. I can tell you that the AF point as no were near his head.








Aug 06, 2020 at 08:46 PM
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Re: Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs


Poefolk wrote:
quantumloop wrote:
Zenon Char wrote:
Poefolk wrote:
Canon sports photog with the R5



Canon got rid of Cases 5 and 6 and I'm guessing they replaced it with Auto. He never tried that. It would have been interesting to see what happened. He did not mention if he adjusted - Switching tracked subjects (page 440 of the manual) to see if he could make the AF points more stubborn.

A technicality. He refers to the Cases as AF. Cases control tracking characters after AF is achieved. He never tried Case 2 and bumping the TS to -2. It would have been interesting to see a little fine tuning of the TS using any Case # and the Switched tracked subjects adjustment. Might be able to bump up that keeper rate.

Also it does not appear he moved the camera. It was good to see how it reacted but in real life even in full zone AF most probably follow the subject as it moves.



You could be right.

And this photographer is not a "Canon sports photographer" as the person who posted this video labeled him. He used to be a sports photographer 10 years ago but seems to have switched to fashion and event photography. He is also not a "Canon photographer" in that he is not sponsored by Canon.

So his knowledge of the AF system for sports may be a bit outdated.


Well, he's a Canon shooter, who used to shoot sports professionally.


He said he used Case 4 a lot. Canon manuals/documents can be a little vague. There are two dimensions. 1.Up, down, left and right. 2. Forward and backward. I always suspected Case 4 was for Forward and Backward movement. The 1DXII AF guide does say that as I recall.

When I was looking for some tips on how to set up my 7D2 I came across a Peter Reid Millar 1DX blog and he recommended to set TS to -2 for sports. Even if used Case 4 I'd also lower the TS. The presenter in the video seemed to just rely on the factory settings which may have been fine. Zone AF is a different animal. Millar was probably not using zone AF back then.

I have another question. Sure tech has come a long way but do you really need eye focus for all sports? Would the A9 as Pius suggested outperform the R5 using eye focus? I took this shortly after getting the 7D2. I friend asked me to shoot his son. I used a 300L F4 IS and it was night game. I had to shoot at 12,800 ISO andI wide open I still couldn't get faster shutter than 1/500. Sometimes slower and you can see the motion blur in his hands a feet. I can tell you that the AF as no were near his head.








Aug 06, 2020 at 08:45 PM
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Re: Canon R5 R6 Reviews LIST/HUB, see 1st post // review hands on specs


Poefolk wrote:
quantumloop wrote:
Zenon Char wrote:
Poefolk wrote:
Canon sports photog with the R5



Canon got rid of Cases 5 and 6 and I'm guessing they replaced it with Auto. He never tried that. It would have been interesting to see what happened. He did not mention if he adjusted - Switching tracked subjects (page 440 of the manual) to see if he could make the AF points more stubborn.

A technicality. He refers to the Cases as AF. Cases control tracking characters after AF is achieved. He never tried Case 2 and bumping the TS to -2. It would have been interesting to see a little fine tuning of the TS using any Case # and the Switched tracked subjects adjustment. Might be able to bump up that keeper rate.

Also it does not appear he moved the camera. It was good to see how it reacted but in real life even in full zone AF most probably follow the subject as it moves.



You could be right.

And this photographer is not a "Canon sports photographer" as the person who posted this video labeled him. He used to be a sports photographer 10 years ago but seems to have switched to fashion and event photography. He is also not a "Canon photographer" in that he is not sponsored by Canon.

So his knowledge of the AF system for sports may be a bit outdated.


Well, he's a Canon shooter, who used to shoot sports professionally.


He said he used Case 4 a lot. Canon manuals/documents can be a little vague. There are two dimensions. 1.Up, down, left and right. 2. Forward and backward. I always suspected Case 4 was for Forward and Backward movement. The 1DXII AF guide does say that as I recall.

When I was looking for some tips on how to set up my 7D2 I came across a Peter Reid Millar 1DX blog and he recommended to set TS to -2 for sports. Even if used Case 4 I'd also lower the TS. The presenter in the video seemed to just rely on the factory settings which may have been fine. Zone AF is a different animal. Millar was probably not using zone AF back then.

I have another question. Sure tech has come a long way but do you really need eye focus for all sports? Would the A9 as Pius suggested outperform the R5 using eye focus? I took this shortly after getting the 7D2. I friend asked me to shoot his son. I used a 300L F4 IS and it was night game. I had to shoot at 12,800 ISO and I wide still couldn't get faster shutter than 1/500. Sometimes slower and you can see the motion blur in his hands a feet. I can tell you that the AF as no were near his head.








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