this may have been discussed already somewhere in this 19 pages thread, but at 5:55, the photographer talks about the lag and displays it with the KF in flight sample. Unless, their settings weren't correct, this is not going to work for me with Peregrine in flight (both fast and unpredictable). Did I miss something?
The issue with their test is they used an older 500/4 lens and that lens doesn't support the full 12FPS MS mode. So what you see in those examples is one of the slower FPS modes. From other videos I've seen the 12FPS mode looks a lot less laggy due to quick frame insertion but there must be lag still there being hidden by the frame insertion. It is hard to know how it will really be unless you get your hands on one. There are FM users now saying that it is not difficult to track BIF. Chimping mentioned in the R5 review thread that panning with both MS and ES worked for him.
Yes, that’s true - I have no problem panning using either MS or ES. If there’s frame insertion going on it’s irrelevant to me; the pan looks fine, and I don’t lose my subject while tracking.
EDIT:
The lenses I’ve now used with no appreciable lag are:
RF 85 f/1.2L
EF 600mm f/4L II with & without the 2x III
EF 300mm f/2.8L II
EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L II
Should we take that to mean there is no blackout?
There's always blackout using mechanical shutter. That's just a fact of life since the shutter has to open and close.
Blackout is no worse than any DSLR I've ever used. It's perfectly manageable, and in my opinion, shouldn't hinder anyone tracking action.
For ES, there is no blackout. My concern was frame insertion. What I'm saying, with regard to the R5, is that if frame insertion is happening, it's negligible. Again, in my opinion, users of the R5 should have no trouble tracking their subjects.
this may have been discussed already somewhere in this 19 pages thread, but at 5:55, the photographer talks about the lag and displays it with the KF in flight sample. Unless, their settings weren't correct, this is not going to work for me with Peregrine in flight (both fast and unpredictable). Did I miss something?
The issue with their test is they used an older 500/4 lens and that lens doesn't support the full 12FPS MS mode. So what you see in those examples is one of the slower FPS modes. From other videos I've seen the 12FPS mode looks a lot less laggy due to quick frame insertion but there must be lag still there being hidden by the frame insertion. It is hard to know how it will really be unless you get your hands on one. There are FM users now saying that it is not difficult to track BIF. Chimping mentioned in the R5 review thread that panning with both MS and ES worked for him.
Yes, that’s true - I have no problem panning using either MS or ES. If there’s frame insertion going on it’s irrelevant to me; the pan looks fine, and I don’t lose my subject while tracking.
EDIT:
The lenses I’ve now used with no appreciable lag are:
RF 85 f/1.2L
EF 600mm f/4L II with & without the 2x III
EF 300mm f/2.8L II
EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L II
Should we take that to mean there is no blackout?
There's always blackout using mechanical shutter. That's just a fact of life since the shutter has to open and close.
Blackout is no worse than any DSLR I've ever used. It's perfectly manageable, and in my opinion, shouldn't hinder anyone tracking action.
For ES, there is no blackout. My concern was frame insertion. What I'm say with regard to the R5 is that if frame insertion is happening, it's negligible. Again, in my opinion, users of the R5 should have no trouble tracking their subjects.
Aug 05, 2020 at 10:52 AM
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