Why don't you change setting to disable touch screen with EVF only. Touching with my nose used to drive me nuts until I discover this setting. AlphaPhotography wrote:
I keep my touch screen disabled when shooting as it gets pressed inadvertently and sometimes by my nose when using the EVF. I also much prefer composing using the EVF instead of the LCD as you described. Canon's new AF implementation allows me to continue using the EVF without adjusting my hand placement and cycle to the correct subject with one button (joystick) press. I'd think that Sony's AF system is more than capable of the same functionality. It's just a matter of if/when they decide to implement it.
Holger wrote: Jman13 wrote: Holger wrote: AlphaPhotography wrote:
My issue with flexible spot is it's too small (even in size large) for faces and too slow to move across the frame with the joystick. If there are 2+ people on opposite ends of the frame I need to hold the joystick down for 1+ seconds to switch focus. If they are moving then I need to "chase" them with the flexible spot marker (joystick) or attempt to re-frame constantly to keep their eye under the marker. With AF-C wide the camera does the tracking for me and being able to flick the joystick to move to a new subject would be huge for my use. The same is true with birds where I am constantly moving the flexible spot but have trouble keeping it in the right position over the birds eye and often end up with the wrong area in focus. The bird eye-AF looks like a huge game changer for this. Great example at 5:08 here vs. A7III:
The touchscreen probably mitigates this but I keep mine disabled as it becomes pressed inadvertently too often.
I just hope Sony enable a similar functionality if I continue using them.
It is not too small. We are on small 95% of the time and on medium the rest when it is dark. Use the flexible spot and tracking on A7riv and A9/A9ii and it sticks with the thing or person, no need for wide.
If not use the touch screen. Super fast to move the point from one side to the other. Or use a certain part of the lcd as af sensitive area. With eye on the EVF you can use your thumb to move the point over the screen using the lcd.
It is a matter of practice. We now have a million images in 5 years using the flex spot during events or other shootings. In my experience the quickest way when wanting to control focus.
No one is saying you can't be productive with the way it is now, but you are pretending there is no improvement here. Following with flexible spot, you WILL miss images that you would otherwise be able to get with wide area and Eye AF. Not saying it will be a ton, but you cant tell me that if you are shooting one subject, where framing makes sense on the left, then you see an opportunity on another subject, but framing is best on the right, that you are able to instantly get that focus point over there and get the shot without any delay. You just can't.
Now, it might be quick, but sometimes that means you miss that perfect expression. Will it ruin the day's images? Of course not, but the ease of being able to not worry about where the focus point is in the frame at all, while quickly flicking between faces for cases where two subjects are competing...by a simple gesture with the stick is added speed and flexibility. It's a great option, and one I'd love to have. If you don't need it for your shooting, fine, but don't pretend that it isn't a great development.
Plenty of people got great images at events with manual focus...it didn't make AF not a great development. Plenty of people still get great images at events with DSLRs where they are actively moving the focus point and attempting to keep it on the subjects eye. They do...but they also miss focus a fair bit. This is a further evolution of the great Eye AF features, and they will enable you to miss fewer and fewer shots.
The trick is the touch screen. Using the joystick to cycle through the persons from left to right requires several button presses, at minimum one button press. I just touch the subject directly and press the shutter button. With mirrorless we are not always using the EVF, but at least as often use just the LCD to be able to reframe, shoot above the heads etc.
For me there is no quicker way.
Other advantage: you recognise much quicker what happens in your surrounding when looking at the lcd instead of through the EVF. E.g. a sudden movement of a person etc.
As I said, I have nothing against new options being added for others. I won't need it.
Jul 26, 2020 at 04:27 PM
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