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Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6 | |
Fred Miranda wrote:
LBJ2 wrote:
kdrk888 wrote:
I give Canon a lot of credit for creating this camera, of course will have see the real reviews. If the R5's DR is not too shabby compared to Sony's, I may get one next year to play with their RF 15-35 IS L and the 100-500mm. I never thought I would dip my toe in Canon water again. Will see what Sony has to offer in the next couple months.
Exiting times for sure! My hand might appreciate a little more camera to hang on to with that R5 body!
But the other day I took out all of my Sony gear/system and aligned setup all my lenses by FL/Prime and FL/Zooms ( I've never seen my whole kit together like that before) and thought...NAH I'm more than good with 18-600mm FL covered in primes, macro and zooms FE, GM and Batis + 1.4x and 2x TCs. Sony is sure to top the already super excellent A9II and A7rIV in the not too distant future too.
However, the R5 is the first Canon camera to ever catch my eye. * I would never use 4K/ 8K, like I never use the 4K on my Sony cameras. The 28-70/2 and 50/85 1.2 are right up my alley too.
My goal in the new few months is to becomes very close friends with at least one local that buys the R5 + 28-70/2 and 50/851.2 
From the lenses you mentioned above, let's do some calculations: 
Canon R5 (45MP, 12FPS*) $3,800
Canon 50/1.2 $2,300 (950g)
Canon 85/1.2 $2,700 (1,200g)
Canon 28-70/2 $3,000 (1,430g)
One body and three lenses: $11,800.
*20FPS with electronic shutter but not useful for fast action due to sensor read-out speed.
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Sony equiv.: (brand new)
Sony A7R III (42MP, 10FPS): $2,500
Sony 50/1.4 $1,500 (780g)
Sony 85/1.4. $1,800 (820g)
Sony 24-70/2.8. $2,200 (885g)
One body and three lenses: $8000. But slash 30% if you get the above used in mint condition: $5,600. That's about half the price compared to similar lenses with the new R5.
With the Canon system you gain in speed but lose in size and price. On top of that, the Sony A7R III sensor is perhaps Sony's best and it's very unlikely Canon won't be able to match its DR and SNR. Yes, Canon get some points for the extra IBIS compensation.
For me personally, Canon does not make lenses I really like. They are:
24mm f/1.4, 135/1.8 and nothing in the 12-24mm range, unless you adapt SLR lenses. How about Voigtlander, Sigma and Zeiss E-mount lenses? It's hard to leave them behind. 
For fun, I added up what I could get for selling my 10 Sony mount lenses (Sigma 14-24, Loxia 21, Sony 24-105, Sigma 24-70, CV 40, Sony 90 macro, Tamron 70-180, Sony 135 GM,Sony 100-400 and Sony 200-600), they didn't add up to much! . Those Canon RF L lenses are pricey right now. I am sure they will be cheaper when the used market is more developed. There is no way I will do a wholesale switch. I just like to try to see how good the 7-8 stop stabilization they claim is. If I could reliably take 1 second wide angle shots at ISO 100, that will be something, for me anyway.
BTW, Fred, you compared the price of the Canon 85 f1.2 to Sony's 1.4, and Canon's 28-7- f2 to Sony's 24-70 f2.8, not exactly an apple to apple comparison IMO. But no question some of the Canon RF L glasses are very pricey. I have seen some pretty reasonable used prices for the 15-35, 24-70 and the 70-200, very few of them are on the B&S board though.
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